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Contents of the bible.

I was thinking the other day about people that are not believers of God and the bible as His written word. And I was wondering what then those people think the contents of the bible are/were. Do you that don't believe it is the written word of God believe that those writings were written when claimed? Do you think they were just "stories" written years ago? I am curious. Any thoughts?

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I do believe in the Bible, but your question can be applied to any religious text.

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I was thinking the other day about people that are not believers of God and the Quran as His written word. And I was wondering what then those people think the contents of the Quran are/were. Do you that don't believe it is the written word of God believe that those writings were written when claimed? Do you think they were just "stories" written years ago? I am curious. Any thoughts?

I was thinking the other day about people that are not believers of God and the Book of Mormon as His written word. And I was wondering what then those people think the contents of the Book of Mormon are/were. Do you that don't believe it is the written word of God believe that those writings were written when claimed? Do you think they were just "stories" written years ago? I am curious. Any thoughts?

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So to answer your question, as I have applied it to all non-Bible scripture including the Tao te Ching, Quran, Poetic Edda, Younger Edda, Kitáb-i-Aqdas, Tipitaka, Œruti, Smriti, Tattvartha Sutra, etc. Insofar as they hold truth, they are "given by inspiration of God, and are profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: that the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works" (2 Timothy 3:16-17).


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I was thinking the other day about people that are not believers of God and the bible as His written word. And I was wondering what then those people think the contents of the bible are/were. Do you that don't believe it is the written word of God believe that those writings were written when claimed? Do you think they were just "stories" written years ago? I am curious. Any thoughts?
Yes I believe a lot of whats in the bible are stories like the parting of the Red Sea which written evidence now suggests that they where helped across by a army of Arab fisherman from the Arabian peninsula who disliked Egypt.also science for the most part with evolution largely disproves biblical creation


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Yes I believe a lot of whats in the bible are stories like the parting of the Red Sea which written evidence now suggests that they where helped across by a army of Arab fisherman from the Arabian peninsula who disliked Egypt.also science for the most part with evolution largely disproves biblical creation


Written evidence about being helped across by Arab fisherman? Could you tell me where I could read that?

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Much of the bible is metaphor. In a way, that makes many of the stories just "stories," but with moral overtones.


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I was thinking the other day about people that are not believers of God and the bible as His written word. And I was wondering what then those people think the contents of the bible are/were. Do you that don't believe it is the written word of God believe that those writings were written when claimed? Do you think they were just "stories" written years ago? I am curious. Any thoughts?


The bible is a mix of history, stories and legal documents. Some parts of the bible are based on fact while others are fiction. The problem with the bible is modern interpretation, which is different then original intent. For example, Revaluations is a typical anti-Roman code book, but modern interpretation has distorted its true meaning to the point perversion.


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Written evidence about being helped across by Arab fisherman? Could you tell me where I could read that?
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The question was:

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I was thinking the other day about people that are not believers of God and the bible as His written word. And I was wondering what then those people think the contents of the bible are/were.


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(2 Timothy 3:16-17).


Which means he wasn't speaking to you.


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The question was:

You said:

Which means he wasn't speaking to you.
I addressed this, and also answered the question, or do you believe his question cannot be applied as I suggested to open the discussion to a more broad audience?


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The question was:

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I was thinking the other day about people that are not believers of God and the bible as His written word. And I was wondering what then those people think the contents of the bible are/were.


You said:

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Originally posted by Regret
(2 Timothy 3:16-17).


Which means he wasn't speaking to you.


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I was thinking the other day about people that are not believers of God and the bible as His written word. And I was wondering what then those people think the contents of the bible are/were. Do you that don't believe it is the written word of God believe that those writings were written when claimed? Do you think they were just "stories" written years ago? I am curious. Any thoughts?


Exactly, they were just "stories written long ago", maybe some of them had a truth at the core, but like any story that is told and re-told for generations, it gets changed and added to from the original. They're also a way of passing along knowledge and history and we're lucky to have them.

They were also written in a time when science all but didn't exist, so the best way to explain something like 'how did man come to exist' was "God made man from dirt", it's not that those people were stupid, they just did with the best they had at the time.


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I was thinking the other day about people that are not believers of God and the bible as His written word. And I was wondering what then those people think the contents of the bible are/were. Do you that don't believe it is the written word of God believe that those writings were written when claimed? Do you think they were just "stories" written years ago? I am curious. Any thoughts?


Its so nice to know that you occasionally think that other people might have opinons.

I think the Bible is part social doctrine, part "history," but mostly fables/myths and thier associated moral lessons.

What do you think other holy texts are, if not written by god (the Qu'ran, for instance)


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Its so nice to know that you occasionally think that other people might have opinons.

I think the Bible is part social doctrine, part "history," but mostly fables/myths and thier associated moral lessons.

What do you think other holy texts are, if not written by god (the Qu'ran, for instance)


Huh, never thought about it! Oh my goodness! I don't know. I think I would need to know more about other writings such as the Qu'ran before I try to comment on it.

Excellent question Alliance! I will dig a little and get back to you.

(was your first scentence meant to be sarcastic or serious? I took it as serious....that ok?)

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Re: Contents of the bible.

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I was thinking the other day about people that are not believers of God and the bible as His written word. And I was wondering what then those people think the contents of the bible are/were. Do you that don't believe it is the written word of God believe that those writings were written when claimed? Do you think they were just "stories" written years ago? I am curious. Any thoughts?






I beleive the Bible is just a collection of human experience and wisdom gathered through centuries of growth, learning, exposure to other myths and cultures, and biases from people in power.


IF the Bible was truly written by an infallible God, then there would be no contradictions, would there ?


On top of that, the Bible claims that God is not "the author of confusion", yet the Bible is the most confusing book to date (even the Quran is more clear, despite its being violent and sexist)


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The bible is just a bunch of fiction, 90% is total bullshit.

Just like the Qur'an.

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Re: Re: Contents of the bible.

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What do you think other holy texts are, if not written by god (the Qu'ran, for instance)
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Huh, never thought about it! Oh my goodness! I don't know. I think I would need to know more about other writings such as the Qu'ran before I try to comment on it.

Excellent question Alliance! I will dig a little and get back to you.
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The question was:
You said:

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I do believe in the Bible, but your question can be applied to any religious text.
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e.g.

I was thinking the other day about people that are not believers of God and the Quran as His written word. And I was wondering what then those people think the contents of the Quran are/were. Do you that don't believe it is the written word of God believe that those writings were written when claimed? Do you think they were just "stories" written years ago? I am curious. Any thoughts?

I was thinking the other day about people that are not believers of God and the Book of Mormon as His written word. And I was wondering what then those people think the contents of the Book of Mormon are/were. Do you that don't believe it is the written word of God believe that those writings were written when claimed? Do you think they were just "stories" written years ago? I am curious. Any thoughts?

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Which means he wasn't speaking to you.
Sorry Cap, Looks like the comment was valid even if he ignored it until Alliance stated the same thing.


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The bible is just a bunch of fiction, 90% is total bullshit.

Just like the Qur'an.


Like, do you think that thousands of years ago people were scribbling songs and stories and such...and then found they were compiled to form what we know as the bible?

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I beleive the Bible is just a collection of human experience and wisdom gathered through centuries of growth, learning, exposure to other myths and cultures, and biases from people in power.


IF the Bible was truly written by an infallible God, then there would be no contradictions, would there ?


On top of that, the Bible claims that God is not "the author of confusion", yet the Bible is the most confusing book to date (even the Quran is more clear, despite its being violent and sexist)


Is is contradictions...or our simple human minds that are unable to grasp the complexity of the words? Just wondering.

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Like, do you think that thousands of years ago people were scribbling songs and stories and such...and then found they were compiled to form what we know as the bible?


Em... what?

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