Well...I've heard Wolverinefans say that numerous times.
But the fact is...that he doesn't. He heals from them. What is the brick that Wolverine fights most often? Hulk. Is he known for fast movements and hitting over and over again? Nope. In 9 times out of 10, Hulk gives Wolverine time to heal. It doesn't have to be much, only few seconds. But by that time, most of his wounds have healed. Now, if Hulk would continue pounding, the force of his punches would overload Wolverine's healing factor, stopping all movement (he could not stab him back when his arms are moving wildly) and finally killing him.
Some pictures I have gathered from the internet and comics prove this...
This should prove it right away. If Wolverine is not given time to heal, he'll get owned. Wonder Man is not giving him a chance to breath by doing stupid things as talking peacefully to Wolverine ("Why are you bothering us, X-Man?") or saying that "Now Wonder Man will smash you!" He just keeps pounding and pounding. Wolverine doesn't have time, or speed to react to his attacks, and he is done.
Hulk hits Wolverine with enough force to knock him out. Pretty straighfoward. He also doesn't walk away like he usually does, but goes at him and is about to finish him.
In that pic, Wolverine is hit on the ground. Now, it is already established that one hit wont do much damage to Wolverine unless hit very hard. But what if Grey Hulk had jumped on Wolverine and started to jump on him? Or kicked him in the head? Punched him again until he was knocked out? The A and O in fighting Wolverine is that you don't give him a chance to heal.
I have gathered more pictures, but I think this is enough...
It's useless to say that Wolverine can take hits from Class 100. Because in forum fights, he is not given time to heal (Unless CIS is on) and if he is not given time to heal, he is screwed in no time.
Wolverine fights Hulk and refers how he cant defeat Hulk when he is not given enough time to heal.
The wolverine hatred is overwhelming lol. half those scans he is still awake after he gets hit MANY TIMES more than one, not just with one hit. Also that the many hits from the class 100 people did not KILL HIM.
But in all fairness, the point of this topic is not that one hit from hulk would kill him- nobody's saying that.
The point is that Wolverine could be beaten by hulk and other class 100 characters and is not beyond being beaten just because of his healing factor. The pics seem to back this up, without any room for doubt.
Of course class 100 people can whipe their ass with wolverine but still. The fans say he can take hits from these people so why is people like street level or 15 tons suppose to kill him with one hit.
anyone trying to present an argument like the one you just mentioned, twister, is as far off as those who'd say wolverine can shake off such high-class beatings. the fact remains, though, that wolverine is on the weaker side of the spectrum when it comes to most of the heavy-hitting supers out there. his healing factor, when working properly, is the only thing that's kept him from dying in many fights. that's what DC's trying to say, and it's exactly what various wolverine fanboys have been neglecting to mention in several of their posts.
personally, i think we should just turn this into the "abolishing wolverine fallacies" thread...
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Absolutely AWESOME scans my friend, absolutely awesome
This does nothing short of proving what we've been trying to tell some people (who at this time seem to be banned ) about Wolverine. Sure, he heals really fast and everything, but he can and will be beaten by class 100's. And if he can be beaten by class 100's, then why couldn't he be beaten by class 90's?
Yes class 100 will do that to you and duh his healing factor kept him alive and no he can not shake those 100 off. But he also said wolvie fans used it and said wolverine takes class 100 hits and and I said the pic shows wolverine taking series of them and gets back up until finally they whipe their ass with wolvies skeleton so he can take street level hits.
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There's a big difference in strength level between the two .... check out the (power ratings by 10 thread), still anyone with level 5 strength and above, should be able to convincingly beat the crap out of him !
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I wasn't planning on turning it into an arithmetic progression, don't worry
I just meant i see no reason why Thing or Colossus from the past shouldn't be able to beat him to hell. There is a difference indeed between the two, but even so, when given the circumstances of the thread, that difference IMO isn't so important.
Thats why I wonder why Wolverinefans refer to comics where people beating Wolverine give him time to heal *goughnamorgough*, because they just wouldn't do so in fights without CIS and PIS. Basically, the Wonder Man fight is what should happen every time Wolverine fight's an Class 100.
Pretty much anyone on Alpha Flight would be able to knock Wolverine out. Sassy did it, Vindicator did it, his wife can do it since her suit is just as good (i think), Northstar knocked out Sabertooth so i don't see why he couldn't do the same to wolverine, Aurora can do the same as Northstar but with STYLE ( ), Shaman............we don't even wanna go there, etc. etc. etc.