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New timeline based on trilogy

I'm trying to keep things straight, so bear with me and see if there is anything to be added. I'm guessing on ages. Jack may be older than what we previously guessed, but here is my speculation.


Jack is born: According to the POTC visual guide, Jack was born at sea in the middle of a storm.

Jack: 15, Will and Liz are born: Will is born to Bootstrap Bill and mother. He lives in England. Elizabeth Swann is born to Weatherby Swann and mother. Sometime before she is 12, her mother dies.

Jack: Between 18 and 22 (most likely)------ Jack works for the EITC under Beckett. Although not specified in film, it is speculated that Jack freed a shipload of slaves, thus branding him a pirate. According to the POTC Visual Guide, Jack is an average/below average swordsman in spite of being taught by an Italian swordfighter in exchange for gold. He is, however, a fantastic sharpshooter. Somewhere in his life, he obtained all his "effects," including a compass that points to what you want the most from the mysterious Tia Dalma.


Jack: 23, Will and Liz: 8----- Davy Jones makes a deal with Jack to resurrect the Wicked Wench. Jack renames it the Black Pearl and somewhere here appoints Barbossa as first mate. He can captain it for 13 years before he has to serve 100 years of service on the Flying Dutchman.

Jack: 25, Will and Liz: 10-----Barbossa mutinies against Jack, maroons him on an island. Jack suffers intense heat exhaustion and escapes only by help of the rum runners. Will and Liz are, uh, 10.

Jack: 27, Will and Liz: 12--- Will and Liz meet after Barbossa as captain of the Pearl sinks Will's ship. Liz finds him and takes his medallion that Bootstrap sent to him. Jack is probably tracking the Pearl. Norrington is about 19 or 20.


Jack: 35, Will and Liz: 20. Curse of the Black Pearl: Our trio meet, Will learns his father was a pirate who may be alive. Elizabeth gets her first real taste of pirates and learns she can hold her own, and Jack gets the Pearl back, shoots Barbossa dead, and escapes a hanging with the help of his new allies. Will is supposed to be the greatest swordsman in the series. This places Norrington at around 27 or 28.

Jack: 36, Will and Liz: 21. Dead Man's Chest: Will and Liz face death for helping Jack. Jack's 13-year deal with Davy is up and the evil captain of the Dutchman tracks him down. Will meets his dad, contemplates a plan on stopping Jones. Liz becomes a pirate, and with Will as a teacher, masters swords quickly. Jack dies. Norrington steals the heart and gives it to Beckett. He is 28 or 29 at this time.

Jack: 36, Will and Liz: 21. At World's End : Jack escapes the Locker and begins to fear mortality even more than before. Norrington saves Liz and dies probably at 29. Will and Liz grow as pirates, he becoming the captain of the Dutchman and Liz becoming Pirate King. The two conceive a child. Jack explores the Fountain of Youth.

Jack: 46, Will and Liz: 31------- Will and Liz have a boy and Will returns from his sea duty. T&T say that the curse is over, although it raises the quesiton of who the captain of the Dutchman is after Will. There is no word where Jack is at this point in time.


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this makes quite alot of sense to me smile the ages are reasonable aswell lol thanks. smile

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Am I leaving anything out?


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Jack is old.. laughing out loud but he's still hot nevertheless... love

sorry. obsession that was.


i don't think you left anything out willo...


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Well, age is only a number.


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yeah...

you know, it didn't really strike me that Jack's afraid of dying..... though, that thing that happened to him in Davey Jones locker is bound to be a bit traumatic...


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Yeah, I think that's his whole motivation of stabbing the heart. He wants to avoid death at all costs. Now, being a Christian, I think actual death would be much different than the Locker, but it's enough to terrify anyone. Fortunately, Jack loses out on immortality and decides to help a friend instead.


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you're a Christian too? cool.. happy

anyway, if i would imagine being in Jack's place, i would most certainly be freaked out by death. of course, it isn't exactly death in there.... but still.. so that's the whole basis for the fountain of youth. speaking of helping a friend, i am still kinda sorta shocked at the part where davey stabbed will. especially when i saw Jack's and Liz's expressions..


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Oh yes, poor Jack and Liz and poor Will! The scene was so full of anguish, yet so beautiful and poignant. That's love. The three of them huddled together...how I love them.


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nah.. poor will? IMO, it's harder to see someone die than to die yourself. but, yeah, poor will... life probably flashed before his eyes and the awful reality that he might never see Elizabeth again..............


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Will went through a lot in addition to the sheer physical pain. But I would agree, it would be harder to watch someone die. Imagine if it were the other way around and Liz was stabbed. It was just such a poignant moment. It made the trilogy as far as I'm concerned.


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if Liz was stabbed.... hmm... too bad the dutchman's captain can't be a girl.

yeah. it was. i wonder, if liz was the one stab, i wonder if will would be the one stabbing the heart. he would free his father and could probably see liz in the afterlife (assuming he could go back and forth right?)....


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If a woman can be the Pirate King, she could probably be the captain of the FD. All that it would change is that Will would wait 10 years for her.


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that's possible.

but if not...

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i wonder, if liz was the one stab, i wonder if will would be the one stabbing the heart. he would free his father and could probably see liz in the afterlife (assuming he could go back and forth right?)....


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Yes, if she couldn't do it, Will would probably stab it and go get her in the Land of the Dead.


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Re: New timeline based on trilogy

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I'm trying to keep things straight, so bear with me and see if there is anything to be added. I'm guessing on ages. Jack may be older than what we previously guessed, but here is my speculation.


Jack is born: According to the POTC visual guide, Jack was born at sea in the middle of a storm.

Jack: 15, Will and Liz are born: Will is born to Bootstrap Bill and mother. He lives in England. Elizabeth Swann is born to Weatherby Swann and mother. Sometime before she is 12, her mother dies.

Jack: Between 18 and 22 (most likely)------ Jack works for the EITC under Beckett. Although not specified in film, it is speculated that Jack freed a shipload of slaves, thus branding him a pirate. According to the POTC Visual Guide, Jack is an average/below average swordsman in spite of being taught by an Italian swordfighter in exchange for gold. He is, however, a fantastic sharpshooter. Somewhere in his life, he obtained all his "effects," including a compass that points to what you want the most from the mysterious Tia Dalma.


Jack: 23, Will and Liz: 8----- Davy Jones makes a deal with Jack to resurrect the Wicked Wench. Jack renames it the Black Pearl and somewhere here appoints Barbossa as first mate. He can captain it for 13 years before he has to serve 100 years of service on the Flying Dutchman.

Jack: 25, Will and Liz: 10-----Barbossa mutinies against Jack, maroons him on an island. Jack suffers intense heat exhaustion and escapes only by help of the rum runners. Will and Liz are, uh, 10.

Jack: 27, Will and Liz: 12--- Will and Liz meet after Barbossa as captain of the Pearl sinks Will's ship. Liz finds him and takes his medallion that Bootstrap sent to him. Jack is probably tracking the Pearl. Norrington is about 19 or 20.


Jack: 35, Will and Liz: 20. Curse of the Black Pearl: Our trio meet, Will learns his father was a pirate who may be alive. Elizabeth gets her first real taste of pirates and learns she can hold her own, and Jack gets the Pearl back, shoots Barbossa dead, and escapes a hanging with the help of his new allies. Will is supposed to be the greatest swordsman in the series. This places Norrington at around 27 or 28.

Jack: 36, Will and Liz: 21. Dead Man's Chest: Will and Liz face death for helping Jack. Jack's 13-year deal with Davy is up and the evil captain of the Dutchman tracks him down. Will meets his dad, contemplates a plan on stopping Jones. Liz becomes a pirate, and with Will as a teacher, masters swords quickly. Jack dies. Norrington steals the heart and gives it to Beckett. He is 28 or 29 at this time.

Jack: 36, Will and Liz: 21. At World's End : Jack escapes the Locker and begins to fear mortality even more than before. Norrington saves Liz and dies probably at 29. Will and Liz grow as pirates, he becoming the captain of the Dutchman and Liz becoming Pirate King. The two conceive a child. Jack explores the Fountain of Youth.

Jack: 46, Will and Liz: 31------- Will and Liz have a boy and Will returns from his sea duty. T&T say that the curse is over, although it raises the quesiton of who the captain of the Dutchman is after Will. There is no word where Jack is at this point in time.


WOW big grin big grin That's Amazing!!!!


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Thankyou so much Willo, that clears up alot! That was really nice of you to take the time and do that.

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Originally posted by willofthewisp
Am I leaving anything out?


er no i dnt think so...if u did i havent noticed lol smile

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Thanks. It would be so cool to have T&T's blessing to do a guide to the characters, like a biography on all of them. I'd have to get the Bring me the Horizon book at Barnes and Noble to do it. They have a little snippet about all of them included in there.


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Oh, I forgot where Jack is 13 and he goes sees the fairy godmother about this fact that during the day, he's a hot stud, but at night, he's an even hotter stud. She says it will end when he receives love's first kiss. I completely forgot that he locked himself in a tower guarded by a fire-breathing dragon until some brave pirate wench found him. He heard that the girl of his dreams wouldn't even be born until he was 15. Being a typical immature teenage boy, he scoffed at the idea and just left.


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