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The Armies of Isengard & Mordo vs 2,000 Aliens & Predators

Who wins? This is a War Predators only have there staff,hunting knives & hooks AVP is facing the 10,000 Uruk-hai from Helm's Deep and how every many attack Minas Tirith and the ones from the black gate including Goblin Men the Trolls,Warg Riders and Oliphants. Also no bows and arrows on the Isengard & Mordo army


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So 4000 of the Universes greatest hunters and predators take on a 10,000 strong mob of badly trained, ill equipped savages whom got railroaded by Cavalry ?

Yeah I'm going with A&P on this.


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So 4000 of the Universes greatest hunters and predators take on a 10,000 strong mob of badly trained, ill equipped savages whom got railroaded by Cavalry ?

Yeah I'm going with A&P on this.


It'd be 10,000 from Helms Deep, the 180,000-230,000 from the battle of Minas Tirith, and all the other dudes he mentioned against the 4,000 aliens/predators.


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It'd be 10,000 from Helms Deep, the 180,000-230,000 from the battle of Minas Tirith, and all the other dudes he mentioned against the 4,000 aliens/predators.


Feh.

The Preds will eventually lose, Aliens though will impregnate or transform too many so they'll have self re-newing forces.


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hmm good chance either way, aliens are pretty tough, every one the orcs may kill the acid is likely to kill most orcs in a group, if this is just orcs i think Aliens and preds have a fair chance, unfrotunatley preds aint the same without all their equipment


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Aliens and Pedators ftw

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If you are including all the armies of Isengard AND Mordor, then they win easily. As good as the Aliens and Predators might be, there are way too many people on team one's side, not to mention the Nazgul, dragons, trolls, Shelob, and the Balrog.

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If you are including all the armies of Isengard AND Mordor, then they win easily. As good as the Aliens and Predators might be, there are way too many people on team one's side, not to mention the Nazgul, dragons, trolls, Shelob, and the Balrog.


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Hell no son.

Some pansies in shitty armour take on 2000 highly trained galactic warriors and they will DIE.

1. How long are Men of Minas Tirith trained for ? Bet it isn't from Birth.

P -1 MT-0

2. The Men of Numenor in their Prime were scared shitless of Sauron on the battlefield whom had inhuman strength. Preds casually take on Queens with delight and can kick over tanks.

P - 2 MT- 0

3. Minas Tirith tech is made from crude workmanship of ordinary minerals and alloys. Preds have Alien weaponry far sharper and durable then the shoddy pieces of crap used by the men of MT.

P - 3 MT- 0

Shall I go on ? Lets not , it's starting to become a little embarrassing for us humans.

Anyway.....

Shelob - Giant f*cking Spider, nothing a Pred can't handle. Hell ONE predator cleaned out an entire planet of fiercer creatures in Concrete Jungle

Balrog was on no ones side save its own

Dragons ? Oh you mean the Nazgul's mounts. They were killed by 1 arrow and a single sword swing. Hunting Trophy anyone ?

Nazgul are the only pain in the ass here.


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I think the Xenomorphs on their own could kill all the LoR characters.


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laughing

Hell no son.

Some pansies in shitty armour take on 2000 highly trained galactic warriors and they will DIE.


You do realize how many warriors are on the opposite side, right? There's a few hundred thousand on that side. If you give 200,000 humans with weapons against the 2,000 aliens and predators, and they would have a shot at winning.

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1. How long are Men of Minas Tirith trained for ? Bet it isn't from Birth.

P -1 MT-0


It's possible but not stated one way or the other. So you don't know.

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2. The Men of Numenor in their Prime were scared shitless of Sauron on the battlefield whom had inhuman strength. Preds casually take on Queens with delight and can kick over tanks.

P - 2 MT- 0


They weren't just scared of him because of his strength. They were scared of him because going into the battle they had heard rumors of how powerful and terrible he was. Going into the battle, they finally confront him, a (roughly) 10-foot demon looking creature who wipes out about a dozen men with each swing.

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3. Minas Tirith tech is made from crude workmanship of ordinary minerals and alloys. Preds have Alien weaponry far sharper and durable then the shoddy pieces of crap used by the men of MT.

P - 3 MT- 0


Read the intro. Predators have staff, hunting knife, and hook. Nothing about armor, and the last time I checked, a predator's body can be harmed by conventional weapons.

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Are the armies just fighting in an open field?


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Even Orcs would sh!t themselves at the sight of 2000 Aliens after seeing what they can do.

ETs win via "runaway".



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Aliens go in first their strong, fast, and very durable takes alot fo put these guys down.Having acid for blood is an added bonus they will go threw most of the army themselves and then the predators can do clean up.

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I'm still not sold on the A's and P's winning this. They'd be outnumbered about 75-1 not including Oliphants and such that could trample several enemies a piece before going down. There would be a lot of dead orcs laying around after this though.


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I'm still not sold on the A's and P's winning this. They'd be outnumbered about 75-1 not including Oliphants and such that could trample several enemies a piece before going down. There would be a lot of dead orcs laying around after this though.


Exactly. I have no doubt the aliens and predators will cause massive casualties to this army. If you put them against just the 10,000 Uruk-hai, I'd give them the win 10/10. But against this many is just insane.

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It's not really so insane when you consider that with each casualty the Xenomorph's cause they could potentially implant an embryo into the victim and increase their own numbers exponentially, not to mention the fact that a majority of the opposition are cowardly and would run in fear of a Xenomorph drone, let alone a Queen or Xenomorph/Pred Hybrid. If Legalos can take down a stampeding Oliphant and all of it's riders I'm pretty sure a Predator or Xenomorph could. One Xenomorph can kill dozens of people. Particularly when their prey is only armed with close range bladed weaponry.


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It's not really so insane when you consider that with each casualty the Xenomorph's cause they could potentially implant an embryo into the victim and increase their own numbers exponentially,


This is a time-consuming process. It wouldn't be an effective tactic during a fight of this magnitude.

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not to mention the fact that a majority of the opposition are cowardly and would run in fear of a Xenomorph drone, let alone a Queen or Xenomorph/Pred Hybrid.


Nothing was mentioned about a Queen or hybrid, so we can't use those. They are cowardly in a fight, but they don't show cowardice when they outnumber their enemy, which they definitely do here.

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If Legalos can take down a stampeding Oliphant and all of it's riders I'm pretty sure a Predator or Xenomorph could.


I'll concede that, but an Oliphant is still going to cause casualties.

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One Xenomorph can kill dozens of people. Particularly when their prey is only armed with close range bladed weaponry.


Here's the thing. Even if one killed dozens of people, it still won't be enough. Assuming it's 2,000 predators and 2,000 aliens, they are still outnumbered around 50-1. If it's 2,000 aliens and predators combined, then that's 100-1. Is that really possible? Doesn't seem so to me.

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one predator simply decides to self destruct in order to get the most kills
and go to predator paradise and get his 72 earth virgins.


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I thought the pods were the only way to seed people? No ring wraiths you have the 10,000 Uruk-hai from Two Towers and the Warg Riders. The combined army on Return of the King the one who stormed Minas Tirith including the the ones at the end that Aragorn & company fought at the black gate of Mordo also not just Uruk-hai but the giant trolls that had battle armor and the Oliphants


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Do the predators have their cloaking ability for this fight?


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