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Squirrel Fart
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Cyclops vs Jason Todd H2H

Who wins?

Feb 20th, 2008 05:42 AM

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You're kidding, yes?

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Feb 20th, 2008 05:47 AM

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Why should he be kidding?

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Feb 20th, 2008 05:52 AM

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Both are pretty good hand to hand fighters Cyclops has experience and is a pretty good tactician but Jason Todd is no slouch. Scott wins in my opinion 6/10.

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Before this recent Scott's a badass that executes everything with extreme prejudice bull I would have said Todd in a stomp, now I give it to him 7/10

Feb 20th, 2008 05:58 AM

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is this serous? jason is by far the superior h2h fighter

Feb 20th, 2008 05:59 AM

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is this serous? jason is by far the superior h2h fighter

I agree but i wouldn't say by far like i said Scott is more than brawn he has the battle sense going that would give him the edge along with experience i give him a slight majority. Jason isn't an idiot but he's no Dick Grayson or Tim Drake they both have brains that think strategically he doesn't have that on their levels or Scotts.

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I agree but i wouldn't say by far like i said Scott is more than brawn he has the battle sense going that would give him the edge along with experience i give him a slight majority. Jason isn't an idiot but he's no Dick Grayson or Tim Drake they both have brains that think strategically he doesn't have that on their levels or Scotts.

sorry in h2h fight in a featureless enviorment stratagy don't mean crap.

also jason is an expert stratagist and far more skilled then tim.

Have you even read anything about him?

scot can fight,but next to jason he no were near as skilled in h2h combat.

Feb 20th, 2008 06:21 AM

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Tim was the detective

Jason was the fighter

And Dick is both.

But I've never really seen Jason come up with any exceptional tactical plans before, and I've pretty much read everything he has been in since his return.

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Tim was the detective

Jason was the fighter

And Dick is both.

But I've never really seen Jason come up with any exceptional tactical plans before, and I've pretty much read everything he has been in since his return.

Yeah i agree i haven't seen anything to put him above Tim strategy wise anyways. Strategy means a lot even in a featureless environment and yes i have read things with Jason Todd in it have you read comics with Tim Drake in them?

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yes I have. I said jason was the superior fighter not stratagist.

Please explain to me what stratagy scot could hope to come up with verse a superior and more physically fit individual who is also a great stratagist?

Feb 20th, 2008 06:54 AM

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I can believe he's better than Tim at the moment. But not Nightwing. and Scott's no slouch, but I don't think his training is as good as Jason's.

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yes I have. I said jason was the superior fighter not stratagist.

Please explain to me what stratagy scot could hope to come up with verse a superior and more physically fit individual who is also a great stratagist?

How is he more physically fit?

Feb 20th, 2008 08:19 AM

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How is he more physically fit?

easy look at jasons physicall feats verse cyclopes. cyclopes has no real dodging feats or strength feats. Hell physically Punisher is easily scots superior. Jason is at least punisher equal physically if not better.

Feb 20th, 2008 08:23 AM

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Jason has no real strength feats either...
At least none I recall.

Cyclops has dodged storms lightning and a swing from Wolverine though. (just checked the respect thread smile

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Feb 20th, 2008 08:48 AM

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Jason has no real strength feats either...
At least none I recall.

Cyclops has dodged storms lightning and a swing from Wolverine though. (just checked the respect thread )

Ive seen it and I own the issue they come from.

whats not mention is the fact both storm and wolverine had been compeltely mind ****ed earlier and were far from there A game when scot forced them to attack him self.

Not to mention that was really prior to the development to the characters they are now.

Thats really scots best dodging feats. he not a physicall guy in combat he normally just uses his powers.

Feb 20th, 2008 08:55 AM

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Yea, he still was able to dodge her bolt and a swing from Wolverine.

And like I said, I don't remember any strength feats for Jason.
Jason is not as good as Dick or Bruce, but he is still good.
But in my opinion this is not a stomp.

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Feb 20th, 2008 08:59 AM