How enraged is the Hulk? Depending on the level of his anger, he could conceivably bench everything these lesser beings could with a pinky, or he could be blown out of the water by these other powerhouses. Also, Titanus is something of a wild card, due to the fact that there is almost nil information on him, save that he can KO Savage Hulk rather easily. Because of these variables, the list can wildly vary, depending on Hulk's condition and on Titanus' actual strength. This is my list w/o mercurial characters, assuming that they get all their standard equipment, without any items such as the Power Gem for Drax and the Atlas Gauntlets for Wonder Woman:
1. Drax the Destroyer w/o Power Gem-Drax is by far the physical superior of these; he can amp his strength via cosmic power ala Hulk, shattering the ceiling of physical power, not to mention he starts way above the floor of his "peers" already; by sheer strength, he is able to match many a cosmic powerhouse
2. Classic Juggernaut-Juggernaut is a true powerhouse, and even though his greatest attribute is his durability and sheer indomitably, he has also demonstrated, on occasion, sheer brute force to rival most everybody on this list, besting Hulk, Thing, Thor, and most every hero that relies on physicality has been defeated by him
3. Superman w/o Sundip- Superman has demonstrated incalculable power before, but while his strong suit, in general, is the might that his bio-aura grants him, in a sheer contest of strength, he is edged out the two people above him in this contest when they match muscle and sinew
4. Immortal Hercules- while Hercules has some low showings, Marvel seems to have accorded the labors of his counterpart from myth to Hercules also; Hercules has also demonstrated the ability to at least match the majority of the tanks that roam Marvel Earth, and while the best he ever did against Thor was draw, in a contest of pure strength, I would put Immortal Hercules over regular Thor
5. Thor w/ Mjolnir, w/o any other magical enhancement via artifact- while Thor primarily prefers aggressive negotiation, the greatest weapon at his disposal is his lineage as the Odinson; while he can likely take a few of the people above him if he exploits his powers to their fullest, lacking any sort of positive modifier, his physical force is not up to snuff with some of the other contenders
6. Lobo- Lobo has, on occasion, taken down Superman, despite the Man of Steel's numerous advantages over him, including, IMO, the strength advantage; however, his victories seem to be more due to his unique powerset, his sheer unpredictability, and the fact that his skill in H2H combat dwarfs that of Superman; overall, a lot of his ability seems to be due to his intelligence, his fighting skill, and his plethora of superpowers and so, he can't match somebody who is in the same league as him, yet possesses only brute strength
7. Wonder Woman w/o magical enhancement via artifact- Wonder Woman has displayed the ability to take down at least Superman, and most likely Hercules too; but, her victory over Superman is tainted by one of her strengths being one of his weaknesses, and her victory over Hercules is over a DCU version, who, while most likely comparably, might belong in an entirely different tier of power; while she has demonstrated strength second only to Superman in the JLA, and has lifted in excess of millions of tons, most of her strength stems from her magic, and much of her force stems from her skill
8. Captain Marvel w/o major magical aid from Shazam- Captain Marvel is considered by some merely a magical Superman, but the Greek Gods have stated on occasion that Wonder Woman's powers are greater than his own, and Superman has bested him in fair fights before
9. Namor w/in water for a significant amount of time- while Namor has some great showings while within water for some time, some of his victories are, once again, due to his skill advantage, his speed advantage in water, and the fact that the ocean greatly enhances his durability and regeneration, so that even the strongest of comic book characters can't stand against him in his native element
10. Abomination- Abomination has been able to hang with some of the most powerful heroes in comicdom, he is simply dwarfed by some of these other competitors
11. Spiked Thing- while we did not see much of this buffed-up Thing, he seemed impressive, easily defeating Grey Hulk; however, Thing has been shown to be able to fight, if not for very long, Savage Hulk, even though his strength is Lilliputian in comparison to the Hulk's, with the reasoning behind this being that he is a better fighter, and that his exterior is just that hard, so it is not that big of a stretch to say that Spiked Thing can defeat Grey Hulk; overall, he didn't seem very impressive when compared to the other people on this list
12. Ultimate Colossus- Ultimate Colossus has demonstrated amazing power, but, due to his nature as a populant of the Ultimate Universe, he is severely outclassed here; with many high showings, he should be higher, but, in all likelihood, he will most likely be destroyed according to his official stats, due to the fact that many of his high showing have been equalled, if not outright surpassed, by the majority of his competition
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There is something I find wrong with one thing on this list is that Thor with out his hammer is still strong if he holds his hammer and hits someone like Doomsday he can probably devastate Doomsday with that hit.
Gotta go w/ Hulk, easily. His anger will increase proportionately every time another school bus, elephant, naval destroyer, diesel (train) engine is thrown onto the pile. After every competitor has been eliminated, he then asks all the other guys to hop on for s***s n' giggles.
Hulk Mad! Hulk Lift! This is purely a strength contest...one that is "taylor-made" for the Hulk to win. He could start out at base levels...wouldn't matter. Every time, it's his turn underneath the pile, his adrenaline will shoot through the roof, allowing him to press the pile with ease. It's that, or he faces being squished like a grape.
He would never dare ask his fellow "spotters" to step in and remove the items on the pile to avoid getting crushed....too stupid to know any better anyway.
Long pig, what more motivation does he need? Not to be a jerk, but his motivation is life or death.
Here me out: picture two 1x1x1 inch cubes that weigh as much as Mars on a bar, while Hulk is lying on the bench ready to perform one bench press rep. All the other contestants are the spotters. They all assist in agonizingly lifting the bar, and release on Hulk's count.
If he fails, he dies. He will win this tourney walking away. It may not even get to those two 1 in cubes that each weigh as much as Mars.
Great list by the way, Hulking Hurler. I mean I could be wrong, but this to me seems like a cake walk for the Jolly Green Giant
Oh yeah, you are right.ROTFL
Drax with his low intelligence stalemated Warrior Madness Thor, and Drax was in possess of the Power Gem.
The correct list is:
1.Juggernaut, Hulk and Immortal Hercules
2.Drax
3.Lobo/Supes/Thor same range.
4.Wonder Woman
5.Captain Marvel
6.Namor
7.Ultimate Colossus and Spikey Thing
8.Abomination
1.Juggernaut and Hulk are basically the two unstoppable forces on Marvel Earth, Juggy's magic grants him incalculable strenght, so is for Hulk's rage, this puts them on top.
Tough Immortal Hercules supported the Eart Weight, without much effort, his strenght is on an incalculable range, so he can match the two above with ease.
2.Drax was able to stalemate W.M. Thor, tapping into the Power Gem without using his full power, so he's above the Thunder God, Lobo and Supes, especially cause if he's in this contest with his normal intelligence, he'll best them and probably reach the rankings of Juggy, Herc and Hulk.
3.Lobo has bested Supes more than once, while Kal El and Thor both have impressive feats of strenght, Lobo was able to beat Supes cause he's a more ruthless fighter, brutal, expert and he has the killer instinct thing, but in a pure strenght contest, those 3 are on the same league.
4.Wonder Woman has recently acquired strenght above that of CM, so she's above Billy, not by far, but she's here.
5.Captain Marvel, magical superman, was able to give major troubles to Supes before, tough he's not his equal, he's still hella strong, but not he's the guys above.
6.Namor, Avenging Son has showed great physical strenght, tough in a hth fight he'll show his own as usual with the guys above, he's not on the same league.
7.UC and ST showed great physical strenght but they aren't on the Powerhouse ranking, they are mid/low level strong guys, tough they can do their job very well, their only fault is the top guys outclass them by far.
8.Abomination has a considerable strenght, tough he's probably just few steps under UC and ST, he'll give them a fight, but then fall, and certainly he's not enough for those above UC and ST.
Superman is atleast top 2, he can lift 100,000 tons, the Hulk would have to be Super enraged to reach that, and the others on the list just cant come near it, and whatever Supes can lift so can Manhunter, so they tie. Lobo is right under Supes, and Captain Marvel if not splitting his power or pulling his strenght(which he is known for doing) can lift as much as lobo. from there on who knows
i dont know about drax so i cant say anything on him, but the resgt cant keep up a Raged hulk is sstill only at bout 400tons, Superboy can outlift that(if you can count the tactile), Juggs is at about 300ton range maybe farther but not too far...and the rest well who cares? they lose.
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Considering Hulk does use his rage here to high levels he most likely takes this one. Otherwise he wouldnt be one of the top.
Hulking Lurker post was good. But there are things that i respectfully dont agree. Lets see :
"Drax the Destroyer w/o Power Gem-Drax is by far the physical superior of these; he can amp his strength via cosmic power ala Hulk, shattering the ceiling of physical power, not to mention he starts way above the floor of his "peers" already; by sheer strength, he is able to match many a cosmic powerhouse"
Kind of agree. If Drax is using the gem he takes this. If not...honestly i cant tell. Does he ever looked different with or without it? I mean he tecnically should, right. The gem is a boost after all.
"Classic Juggernaut-Juggernaut is a true powerhouse, and even though his greatest attribute is his durability and sheer indomitably, he has also demonstrated, on occasion, sheer brute force to rival most everybody on this list, besting Hulk, Thing, Thor, and most every hero that relies on physicality has been defeated by him"
Classic Juggernaut at regular levels its at the top because we can see it by the fights he had. However he didnt displayed any lifting feats. And about besting the ones you meantioned. Nope, he stalemate all those and defeated Hulk once when he was Merged.
( He also trashed Thor on another occasion but he was amped.)
"Superman w/o Sundip- Superman has demonstrated incalculable power before, but while his strong suit, in general, is the might that his bio-aura grants him, in a sheer contest of strength, he is edged out the two people above him in this contest when they match muscle and sinew"
Have to agree that the aura gives him an edge. He has a moon feat but not planetary without boosts. ( the earth one with help and the Spectre showed the heroes failing the deeds).
"Immortal Hercules- while Hercules has some low showings, Marvel seems to have accorded the labors of his counterpart from myth to Hercules also; Hercules has also demonstrated the ability to at least match the majority of the tanks that roam Marvel Earth, and while the best he ever did against Thor was draw, in a contest of pure strength, I would put Immortal Hercules over regular Thor"
Immortal Hercules has few low showings. All the ones of the list have them for that matter. Drax less tho. He was created to fight Thanos after all.
About this i give him an edge over Superman. In this case in raw strenght -only-.
The Myths are cannon in comics. Wich means he either held the earth or the heavens. Both in DC and Marvel. The earth feat seems the one that has shown in flasbacks and statements at both companies. Superman without a sundip boost its a moon mover but not a planet one.
"Thor w/ Mjolnir, w/o any other magical enhancement via artifact- while Thor primarily prefers aggressive negotiation, the greatest weapon at his disposal is his lineage as the Odinson; while he can likely take a few of the people above him if he exploits his powers to their fullest, lacking any sort of positive modifier, his physical force is not up to snuff with some of the other contenders"
Up there with Hercules. and in true without boosts he has plenetary feats also. Either a notch below Herk or equal (practically all showings have them as equal). Again any edge he may have its in raw strenght only. Figthing skills its another matter, that doesnt aplly here.
"Lobo- Lobo has, on occasion, taken down Superman, despite the Man of Steel's numerous advantages over him, including, IMO, the strength advantage; however, his victories seem to be more due to his unique powerset, his sheer unpredictability, and the fact that his skill in H2H combat dwarfs that of Superman; overall, a lot of his ability seems to be due to his intelligence, his fighting skill, and his plethora of superpowers and so, he can't match somebody who is in the same league as him, yet possesses only brute strength"
Not much to say. If he is the one during his comic in the 90`s, he was stronger than Superman. Superior figthing skills and other mad over the top abilities. How is he in the current version? More, the same or less powerful.
"Wonder Woman w/o magical enhancement via artifact- Wonder Woman has displayed the ability to take down at least Superman, and most likely Hercules too; but, her victory over Superman is tainted by one of her strengths being one of his weaknesses, and her victory over Hercules is over a DCU version, who, while most likely comparably, might belong in an entirely different tier of power; while she has demonstrated strength second only to Superman in the JLA, and has lifted in excess of millions of tons, most of her strength stems from her magic, and much of her force stems from her skill"
Agree and dont agree. She only won against the Hercules of her universe pre crisis. And also lost in return. I dont know if there wer more fights but based on the ones i know they wer tied. Hercules pre crisis was also stated to be as strong as Superman before in his action comics appearances. Same with cap Marvel and Atlas. Post crisis her and Hercules never fought. Both claimed to be stronger. I give the edge over Hercules for the fact he has more feats on a higher level. Especially plenetary ones.
Wonder Woman also is in my opinion very slighty behind Superman. The two fights that she won over skill, had her in the more physical disavantage. Like the last fight she had in # 219. Overall skills shes the best of this group for sure.
"Captain Marvel w/o major magical aid from Shazam- Captain Marvel is considered by some merely a magical Superman, but the Greek Gods have stated on occasion that Wonder Woman's powers are greater than his own, and Superman has bested him in fair fights before"
Dont agree. Superman and Marvel have been stated as equals more than once. In fact he has better feat comparations than Diana does against kal. Stalemated him twice in two armwrestlings, knocked him out twice post crisis and had the physical advantage in Superman/Batman #3. Mind you im not selling Wonder Woman short. She, Hercules, Supes and Marvel as well as Thor are all rougly in the same class. But some have a slight different spot in that tier.
Ill make the list after, but wanted to give my opinion about those.
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