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apocalypse (well written) vs. gladiator

dont know if it was done....dont care if it was done...who takes it? fight takes place in new york


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apoc wins.................


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no he dosent


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Gladiator wins. Apoc's got nothing on Glads.


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apoc wins


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Apoc is smarter has celestial tech He got more Durability Demi-Godlike regenerative and Better Stamina Godlike compared to Demi Godlike Stamina and Durability in Gladiator. He could also attack his mind or use the weakness to radiation to his advantage


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Apocolypse is well written often enough, he's just a chump, plain and simple.


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Apoc is smarter has celestial tech He got more Durability Demi-Godlike regenerative and Better Stamina Godlike compared to Demi Godlike Stamina and Durability in Gladiator. He could also attack his mind or use the weakness to radiation to his advantage
And he'd know the exact frequency of the radiation that effects Glads how? Glads also has psi-armour which protects him from psi attacks. Only people who have bypassed it are Cassandra Nova and Prof X i believe.

I dunno how you figure he's got better Durability and Stamina, when Glads is the one who flies through stars and makes galaxy spanning trips on a regular basis.

Apoc can be pretty tough, but he's not on Glads level. He loses.


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Marvel Offical Handbook files.

Gladiator's file
Intelligence: Above normal
Strength: Incalculable
Speed: Supersonic
Flight Speed: Warp speed
Stamina-Demi-godlike
Durability-Demi-godlike
Agility: Metahuman
Reflexes: Metahuman

Apocalypse file
Intelligence: Extraordinary Genius
Strength:Potentially Incalculable
Flight Speed Supersonic
Durability:Godlike
Staminabig grinemi-Godlike regenerative
Agility:Metahuman
Reflexes:Metahuman


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Marvel Offical Handbook files.

Gladiator's file
Intelligence: Above normal
Strength: Incalculable
Speed: Supersonic
Flight Speed: Warp speed
Stamina: Demi-godlike
Durability: Demi-godlike
Agility: Metahuman
Reflexes: Metahuman
Yeah. And?

Handbooks mean nothing. Actual feats seen in comics do. WHat has Apocalypse done to make you think he could take Glads?


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Didn't he beat Blackbolt or Mariner?


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Didn't he beat Blackbolt or Mariner?


blackbolt killed him with a whisper


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Glads fought Tyrant... and lost. But the fact that he took Tyrant's shots and even matched Tyrant's energy for a time is a huge feat in itself.

Apoc can't match that.


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Apoc's very very rarely well written considering the power he's said to possess, the ability to manipulate his body at the molecular lvl in addition to ever increasing strength after each regenerative period, and such raw power as to be uncontainable in almost any vessel. In theory based on this information, one'd deduce that apoc should be able to use any mutant power(which I've never seen him demonstrate.) and his powers should be indefinitely increasing.

I've heard he easily defeated Exodus and Loki, and one of his creations was easily manhandling and beating most every super hero(took down the avengers easy as pie, though I think they were missing a member, iirc) that got in his way. In fact none actually defeated apoc's creation, apoc activated a self destruct mechanism so as to destroy the city( NY) and I think it was cable who nearly sacrificied himself to move apoc's creature away, but was saved by outside interference.

This weak creation, this herald of apoc had powers akin to the cartoon version of AMAZO, with the ability to continually evolve and simply owned everyone cable, the avengers, and I don't recall who else. Cable would've died if it'd not been for outside interference(ported away), as I stated, iirc.

Again this is simply a herald, a human, iirc, apoc turned into this, someone who's supposed to be much much weaker than Apoc.

Gladiator wins against apoc as he's often portrayed, but if apoc was allowed to truly show his potential and live up to his description, I think he'd take Glad out in a heartbeat.


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apocalypse is one of the craziest mutants. bud id say gladiator would kick his ass big time. but he would have some work to do of course.


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I think apoc is to smart.


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I think apoc is to smart.
hes not smart hes insane he wants to destroy just about anything he sees no matter what the hell it is.


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I think apoc is to smart.
That's great... If he has prep.


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Apocalypse would win, and I think he would win often win without so much trouble. And Glads would pretty easily lose confidence against Apocalypse.


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Apoc is bady written they make him sound to cocky which is why none of you like him i think and his powers are badly written which is why he rarely has anything to brag about but then you take a guy like glads and boost his powers to be able to defeat Ego who's psyhonic abilies rivel Galactus i mean Thor beating Ego due to messing up his eco system causing him messed up body yeah that makes sense he has the weakness of a planet and anyone who can mess up a planet in that way would be able to take him down anyway Apoc well written could defeat Glads in IMO he stalemated the High Evolutionary and took a scream from Blackbolt and servived from what ive heard.

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