Dum Dum Dugan
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Ultimate vs 616 blade, capt, wolverine
Ulitmate Blade, Ultimate Captain America, Ultimate Wolverine
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Blade, Captain America and Wolverine
who wins no prep .
Apr 13th, 2009 11:28 PM
Trackz
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ultimate versions win. ultimate captain america and blade are stronger than their 616 counterparts I believe, and the wolverines are about equal.
Apr 13th, 2009 11:38 PM
Dum Dum Dugan
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Trackz
ultimate versions win. ultimate captain america and blade are stronger than their 616 counterparts I believe, and the wolverines are about equal.
what has ultimate blade done that makes him superior to the original.
I dont agree the ultimate capt better at all. he stronger however he not as skilled.
Ultimate Wolverine no were near as good as 616 Wolverine he get stomp on.
Apr 13th, 2009 11:45 PM
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i think the Ult versions are stronger - in a lift more sort of way, but 616 have the mad pro skillz, especially with these 3 characters, well, Cap and Wolverine for sure, i don't know much on Ult Blade.
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Apr 13th, 2009 11:45 PM
Trackz
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Battlehammer
what has ultimate blade done that makes him superior to the original.
I dont agree the ultimate capt better at all. he stronger however he not as skilled.
Ultimate Wolverine no were near as good as 616 Wolverine he get stomp on.
he overpowered spiderman and almost killed him, thats like his only feat though, he jsut seemed a lot more intense.
he should be more skilled than current cap shouldn't he?
Apr 13th, 2009 11:48 PM
Dum Dum Dugan
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Trackz
he overpowered spiderman and almost killed him, thats like his only feat though, he jsut seemed a lot more intense.
he should be more skilled than current cap shouldn't he?
That doesent make him better man. 616 spidemrna would beta the ever living shit out of ultimate spiderman. You know he only a class 2. He also not as fast or as agile or as good at fighting as 616 spiderman.
I dont think so. Ultimate Capt pritty much U.S Agent
Apr 13th, 2009 11:52 PM
Trackz
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Battlehammer
That doesent make him better man. 616 spidemrna would beta the ever living shit out of ultimate spiderman. You know he only a class 2. He also not as fast or as agile or as good at fighting as 616 spiderman.
I dont think so. Ultimate Capt pritty much U.S Agent
oh, I didnt know he was that weak, then 616 should win with blade and wolverine being better. But is this Buckey captain america we're talking about?
Apr 13th, 2009 11:54 PM
Dum Dum Dugan
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yea. To even it out.
Apr 13th, 2009 11:54 PM
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does ult. logan have adamantium? and how is his hf?
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Apr 14th, 2009 12:20 AM
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Apr 14th, 2009 12:20 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Starscream M
does ult. logan have adamantium? and how is his hf?
Yes, he has... but it seems that not all of his bones are laced with metal (phalanges for example) and his joints are vulnerable. Very vulnerable. No molecular-lv bonds here, his skeleton doesn't work like an action figure.
616 Wolvie has much-much-much better healing feats.
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Apr 14th, 2009 12:23 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Yes, he has... but it seems that not all of his bones are laced with metal (phalanges for example) and his joints are vulnerable. Very vulnerable. No molecular-lv bonds here, his skeleton doesn't work like an action figure.
I'm aware of his joint vulnerabilities (as evidenced by his encounter with ult. hulk). but I don't think that weakness is exploitable in this scenario...no one really has the strength to rip him apart by the joints nor the propensity.
616 logan's hf has also been downgraded recently, so they may be closer.
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Apr 14th, 2009 12:25 AM
Starscream M
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I def think ult. cap beats bucky cap. and I think 616 logan beats ult. logan.
I think the decider will be the blade fight.
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Apr 14th, 2009 12:26 AM
Dum Dum Dugan
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Starscream M
I'm aware of his joint vulnerabilities (as evidenced by his encounter with ult. hulk). but I don't think that weakness is exploitable in this scenario...no one really has the strength to rip him apart by the joints nor the propensity.
616 logan's hf has also been downgraded recently, so they may be closer.
Logan could easily exploit such a weakness not that he needs to.
Lol yea some much for down grade. He had his heart ripped out and healed from it amoung other things.
Apr 14th, 2009 12:29 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Battlehammer
Logan could easily exploit such a weakness not that he needs to.
no he cannot.
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Apr 14th, 2009 12:30 AM
StiltmanFTW
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Starscream M
616 logan's hf has also been downgraded recently, so they may be closer.
No, Guggenheim just wanted to give a perfect explanation for all the HF inconsistency which was undoubtedly about to come. I read some review about that.
Did you read Get Mystique ? His healing feats from that story alone puts Ultimate to the shame. And it came right after Logan dies .
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Apr 14th, 2009 12:32 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Starscream M
no he cannot.
He can cut his fingers off like he did to DP, for example...
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Apr 14th, 2009 12:32 AM
Dum Dum Dugan
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Starscream M
no he cannot.
yes he can. for starters he easily storng enough to tear some on jionts off. he also could easily cut at the jionts not that he needs to.
Apr 14th, 2009 12:52 AM
Starscream M
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Battlehammer
yes he can. for starters he easily storng enough to tear some on jionts off. he also could easily cut at the jionts not that he needs to.
logan has never tore a meta's joints off nor cut someone's joints...that's not in character. so pointless to this discussion.
I think 616 logan will win, but not because ult. logan's joints are weaker.
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Apr 14th, 2009 12:54 AM
Dum Dum Dugan
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Starscream M
logan has never tore a meta's joints off nor cut someone's joints...that's not in character. so pointless to this discussion.
I think 616 logan will win, but not because ult. logan's joints are weaker.
actaully he kicked a man head off before, and ulitmate wolverine does not to my knowledge have meta human durability. actaully logan has cut jionts off, limbos ect. just ask silver samuria
Apr 14th, 2009 12:59 AM
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