without prep? in what dream? spider-man is super fast,agile,strong, got spider-senses.. unless batman can disable his spider-sanses and abilities with some prep he can never even touch spider-man
It is widely known fact that in his normal condition Spider-Man badly sucks to any martial artist worth his name.
With day's prep? Batgod can take on Superman with that much prep.
who always gets his butt handed to him by spider-man , there were 1-2 fights when he was a good match for spider-man but i really dont need to explain whats a PIS right? because how interesting would it be to read spider-man comics if he would just speed blitz his oponnents from sunday to monday and wont even be touched by them , if we look at spider-man overall without PIS and we judge him by his standards and his real feats then....batman wont be able to even scratch his nose
EDIT: I think this thread already exists with dozens of pages
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steve rogers who was able to give a beating to hulk? , why wont you just mention batman beating superman or wolverine hurting thanos while you are at it
this is what i am talking about...you said it yourself perfectly "where was this super dodging speed then"? now we know for a fact that spider man does have super dodging ability otherwise you just dont read comics so seriously where was it?
dont act like you dont know that PIS does exist in the comics world and specially and i repeat specially with captain america who is meant to represent america and the american ideals and there for he is able to go toe 2 toe with prince namor, hulk and characters he isnt suppose to even be able to scratch ... captain america is the MARVEL version of BATMAN actually they cant lose because they are the icons
Are you saying that anytime Spider-man gets HIT in a straite h2h confrontation with someone slower, it's PIS? Because there are LOTS of examples of him being tagged, i mean seriously lots. You seem like a fan, so do you really need me to post every scan of spider-man being hit, so you can justify it as PIS?
Srsly dude. He gets hit by slower people, and peak humans dodge bullets. Shit happends, it's not supernatural, it's comics.