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Darth Martin
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Darth Vader & Darth Tyranus vs Mace Windu & Anakin Skywalker

I don't think this has been done before.

Vader is OT. Tyranus is ROTS. Anakin is ROTS in his Jedi incarnation. Mace is ROTS.

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1. Saber Duel
2. Force Fight
3. All-Out

Which team would win each scenario based on 10 matches? Please remember to give detailed explanations and state your reasonings.

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Mace or Anakin could beat Dooku, while Vader could beat Anakin I guess. Mace could also beat Vader though, so i'm going with Mace and Anakin 8/10.


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Anakin and Mace could beat Tyranus in what? Duel, force fight, all-out? Be more specific.

I think Tyranus>Anakin in sabers and force. Im not sure Mace can beat either Sith for a majority in a force fight.

Mace would certainly have the advantage against either Sith in a saber duel due to his Vapaad and Shatterpoint abilities.

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Anakin and Mace could beat Tyranus in what? Duel, force fight, all-out? Be more specific.


No.

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I think Tyranus>Anakin in sabers and force.


Remember that one movie where Anakin killed Dooku?


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Team 2 ftw, Mace > Vader and Anakin can hold off Dooku.


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Originally posted by Vorpal Ruin
Remember that one movie where Anakin killed Dooku?
I also remember where Mace beat Sidious yet people claim Sidious had it in control. Or when Yoda made Sidious have that "Oh shit" look on his face yet people around here claim Sidious was toying with Yoda. People interpret things differently.

IMO what happened in the duel you speak of was a thing of circumstance. Had Tyranus not abused Kenobi the way he did I doubt Anakin would have went ape shit. I've got Tyranus over Anakin in a force fight all day. I'd give Tyranus the edge in swordsmanship skills.

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I also remember where Mace beat Sidious yet people claim Sidious had it in control. Or when Yoda made Sidious have that "Oh shit" look on his face yet people around here claim Sidious was toying with Yoda. People interpret things differently.


Well, you're right about people interpret things differently. Mace beat Sidious. Sidious didn't toy with Yoda.


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I think Mace beat Sidious in a saber duel and Yoda would have defeated Sidious. That's how I interpreted it. I also believe Tyranus>Anakin overall.

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With no plot induced stupidity or scripted dialogue, then Dooku>Anakin, as Anakin required goading to achieve "teh Z0ne." Though I am inclined to give him a 2-3/10 win in both sabers and Force.

Anakin would lose to his older self in the Force 10/10 times and in sabers... Iunno. I'm still not too updated on Vader's saber skills.

Mace's Vaapad would give him, I feel, the win at least 6/10 times with Vader, probably higher. 8/10 with Dooku.



Sabers: Jedi.
Force: Sith.
All Out: I really don't know. Jedi, if Anakin can last long enough against Dooku for Mace to kill Vader. But that'd be close.


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vader & dooku take this. they have far superior force powers. and the saber skills between the 2 teams is about even. overall team 1 takes this 7/10 times.


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I'm sure the Sith win the force fight. I don't know how long Vader could last in a saber duel with either.

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vader & dooku take this. they have far superior force powers. and the saber skills between the 2 teams is about even. overall team 1 takes this 7/10 times.


Far superior force power? I don't think so. Sure, Vader has more power than anakin, but you think they far outclass Mace Windu in force power?


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yes, dooku is at yoda's level of force power and yoda is quite stronger than mace in the force.


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dooku is at yoda's level of force power
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Vader would lost bad to anakin in sabers but beat him with the force.

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How would he lose bad?

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Because anakins saber skills > vaders and we have seen what happened when anakin gets into clarity and tool dooku.

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Originally posted by bayhunter12
yes, dooku is at yoda's level of force power


Pass that please. smokin'


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Yeah, I'll take some as well.

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Because anakins saber skills > vaders and we have seen what happened when anakin gets into clarity and tool dooku.
Anakin's mobility>Vader's. Vader still retains all of his skills and experiences he had earlier. Anakin went apeshit when he fought alongside Kenobi, who got pwned. Anakin's not alongside anyone here. Vader also knows Anakin inside and out better than even Kenobi did. Anakin can't say the same.

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yes, dooku is at yoda's level of force power and yoda is quite stronger than mace in the force.


Can you prove that, please? Also prove that Dooku is 'quite stronger' than Mace in the force.


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