Inclined to agree with this. Question now is can Herc take out both Wolverine and Sabretooth? Is Wolverine bloodlusted? (no need to ask if Sabretooth is blood lusted)
Actually screw it, I'm going to say the team wins. Spidey can annoy Herc with webbing and while he's doing that Sabretooth and Wolverine will tear him apart.
which never happens in comics, and wont happen here. Unless you think Thing can now beat Hulk the majority? because who ever land the hit in a brick fight would send the other one to another country.
Gorgon kicked Wolverine across the world.
Onslaught knocked Juggernaut a few states away.
Colossus tossed Wolverine into near orbit.(Not a BFR, but proves my point)
Etc....
I never said Thing could take Hulk, and BFR is a tactic that both Ares and Herc are more than strong enough to use on Logan and Sabertooth, Spidey might prove difficult since he can just web back. The god brothers could also go the WWH route and just hit Sabes/Wolvie in the head till they blackout, then they can focus on Spidey.
Yes it happens but a small percentage of the time, to pretend that will happen the majority of the time in this fight is wrong.
No but saying they will BFR them implies you believe thing can take hulk. Becuase the fact remains any heavy hitters can easily bfr another if you wanna play that game.
yea and wolverine or sabre-tootha re more then capable of stabbing either herc or ares in the head or cutting it off. It just not a likly scenerio.
They can't pull a WWH lol are you kidding me? they dont ahve nearly the healing factor or size of body to event attempt that. They get killed trying a stunt like that.
Also ares is utter garbage wolverine could take him all by him lonesome the soldi majority.
The fact that it happens is enough, if it can be used as a viable tactic, it counts towards a win. Herc, who'se extremely far past Class 100, and Ares, who is trash, but still tussled with Herc, despite only being Class 70, have enough strength to BFR. And if you honestly think a full force punch in the face from Herc/Ares won't rock/disorient/stun either Wolverine or Sabertooth, you're just dumb.
And stop trying to insinuate what I believe, you saying you don't believe a BFR counts towards a win is just being hypocrital, since you yourself have used BFR logic before.
Yea and wolverien and sabre-tooth cut off limbs, and heads and stbab people in the heads. that is also a viable tactic.
And yet neither do it almost ever.
No I am not dumb I have this little then called knowledge of characters I am debating. Or should I start posting evidences after evidences of wolverine taking class 100 hits and keep coming?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't Logan been dropped by people far under Class 100???
And yes, picking up/punching someone whose strength level is so far below your own, and BFR'ing them isn't out of the question, in fact it's a very sound tactic considered neither of them is good with edged weapon durability, and they are strong enough to do it.
However, Thing BFR'ing Hulk, is just not logical since they're both in the same strength class, till Hulk amps anyway. You never see people of the same strength BFR'ing each other.
And you're saying that Gorgon can kick Logan across the world, but Herc/Ares can't punch them hard enough to send them flying?
Anything that can give them a win can be used in debate. Juggernaut almost never BFR's, but he wins a lot of threads on here because of it.
ares wont be bfring anyone he will be the first one to get killed,a stub from wolverine or sabretooth to the throat or the head will end this, hercules vs spider-man,wolverine,sabretooth will lose they are too much for him
WWH was able to hold wolverine and punch him in the head because of his size and his arm size he was able to hold wolverine with 1 arm far enough to avoid wolverine cutting his body or face, herc and ares dopesnt have the size of hulk so they cant do the same thing they will have to get themselves close to wolverine which means he stub them
Yea and cutitng off there heads, arms, stabbing them in the head are also usable tactics, just like BFR arnt likly. also how is ares and herc going to grab idnividuals who are more skilled and faster?
Now your holding a double stanrd. BFR hardly ever happen there are vastly more examples of them not happening then happening. Being strong would not prevent you from being BFR. only thing that matter is one weight not strangth try again though.
yea gorgon did and thats the only time thats every happen. he has numerous examples of not happening then happening
It can be used but it not a likly event of ahppening which you seem unable to rapp your head around
Wolverine has been hurt pretty bad by getting run over by a car. He did recover though and he didn't have his adamantium either. His HF was higher than when he DID have the adamantium. A full on hit by Hercules (who is one of the strongest characters in Marvel) with his mace should pretty much destroy the face of either Wolverine or Sabertooth. Ares can distract Spiderman. Wolverine and Sabertooth would be a ridiculously difficult team to beat by someone that does not have energy projection or super speed. Hercules does have a healing factor of his own as well as super human speed to a degree. His strengths lie in his...well...strength, endurance and fighting prowess. His opponents are agile and fast but they all would eventually have to tussle in close combat. If Herc could survive some slashes and get close enough to either of them, he could get them in a sleeper hold which would knock them out in a second. His mace is the X-factor. Man! Ares is the god of war, he should be a factor in the fight. Give Hercules Beta Ray Bill.
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