Have you notcied that not only in movies but in other things such as video games, tv series, cartoons and even books, That the American is always the hero and the bad guy is always from the UK. Apart from 007 ofcourse but check it:
Films
-Gone in 60 Seconds
-Misson Impossible 2 (can't remember the first one)
-LOTR (Saruman)
-Shanghai Knights
-Independence Day (ok they are aliens but they are probably british).
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Gandalf sounds English to me. As does Sam, Frodo, Merry, Theoden, etc. Except Pippin, who sounds Glaswegian.
In Shanghai Knights, Jackie Chan, very American!
Jon Voigt was tha bad dude in Mission Impossible, although there was that Max woman too.
It always seems preferrable to Americans that THEY save the world, while in reality they are the most likely to **** it up in the first place.
But I take your point. America is the biggest market, so the more American good guys in films the more likely yanks will be to like it. Also, naebdy likes the English, the whole history of thievin' other folks countrys (Scotland, Oz, India etc etc etc), so they make good bad guys.
__________________ In football, you use your foot to kick the ball, hence the name.
Americans add throwing, pads, alter the length of the game etc, i.e. change it completely yet still call it football.
Then they call the original soccer, and expect the rest of the world to adopt this bastard name. Pish.
From hence forth American football shall be known as "soccer." by me.
Plus the fact that pretty much every country on earth hates the english, i think you'll find that even scottish, irish and welsh will agree, but all they do is hug sheep, drink guiness, and eat haggis so screw them. (no racism intended).
But its down to our sarcastic remarks and our posh but evil accents. Whether americans have the kick-ass accents and the aussies are like WTF? all the time, but they are the new heros, (Hector [Troy]/Wolverine [X-men] etc.)
Hey, you're lucky UK people were even considered for those roles! By considered I mean "crossed someone's mind at some point."
Anyways, I'm kidding. Most people think of the UK when it comes to movies every now and then. Like every two years when a James Bond movie comes out...
I read somewhere that the movie industry is getting so global that it's harder and harder to create villains from other countries because there are more and more people than ever before that they don't want to offend.
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"England never stole Scotland, they got battered trying to"
They did get thumped at Bannockburn, but after Flodden (bloodiest battle on the British Isles), an economic shafting by the English, a daft glory-craving King or 4, and politicians eager to line their pockets with English silver........in fact I suppose the English bought Scotland, for a ridiculously low amount of money, which I construe as thievery. So there.
__________________ In football, you use your foot to kick the ball, hence the name.
Americans add throwing, pads, alter the length of the game etc, i.e. change it completely yet still call it football.
Then they call the original soccer, and expect the rest of the world to adopt this bastard name. Pish.
From hence forth American football shall be known as "soccer." by me.
Gender: Male Location: United Kingdom
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The original question is actually a very good point! I hadnt noticed it until now!
Maybe its just cos the british play better baddies - Gary Oldman for instance -
Dracula
The Fith Element
Lost in Space
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Gaz
Yeh but the english are our tea drinking, chip shops (scottish stole that from us), full english breakfast, and the fact that americans would not exsist without us.
Plus James Bond (when it was written) was an ENGLISH spy regardless of who played the part. Besides he Timothy Dolton didn't play James Bond as a welsh man, it wasnt "Bond, Jones the Bond, Double O Se-V-En"
americans are always making shit up...look at the patriot where english are portrayed as nazis or u571 where england decoded some codes or somethin like that but the americans made out that they did it..historically inaccurate bullshit
i know its only a film but there is no need to lie about history
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Exactly dean I agree.I find it some what pathetic that in U-571 that they change actual historical events Showing how it was the Americans that captured the enigma machine. Just so they could be perceived as the heroes.
The Americans were not involved in the capture of the enigma machine at all. It was actually retrieved by the British Royal Navy.Which just shows what glory hoggers they are.
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