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Anne Rice's "Vampire Chronicles" versus the "Twilight" Vampires

There's a thread in the MVF entitled "Twilight versus Queen of the Damned." MVF rules obviously restrict the debate to the movie versions only. I thought it would be a good idea to start a thread that includes not only the movies, but also the books, comics, etc;

I consulted a moderator on this and was told the OTF is the best place for this thread.

So here we go.....


The Anne Rice vampires and the Twilight vampires in an all out war, a battle for World domination. The Anne Rice vampires, all of them, go along with Akasha's plan to kill off 90 percent of the world's human men, and to establish a new Eden in which women will worship Akasha as a goddess.


The Volturi, Cullens, and the rest of the Twilight vampires decide Akasha is off her rocker and will do anything to stop her.

The Anne Rice vampires include any from the following books/movies (comics included):

Interview with the vampire
The Vampire Lestat
Queen of the Damned
Tale of the Body Thief
Memnoch the Devil
The Vampire Armand
Merrick
Blood and Gold
Blackwood Farm
Blood Canticle
Pandora
Vittorio


The Twilight vampires include any from the following books/movies:

Twilight
New Moon
Eclipse
Breaking Dawn
Midnight Sun


So, based on what is seen in the movies, and what is included in the books, who wins?


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the anne rice vampires pawn they possess many of the same powers as the tweens and then some.. precog.. body possession.. Telepathy..telekinesis and superhuman speed and strength


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Among other things.


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lestat alone possess involuntary reflexive power for self preservation.. and he and memnoch also possess actual matter manipulation which is why memnoch wanted him he was one of the most powerful beings he had ever encountered in the material world enough that he wanted him in the none material universe where they god and devil originated from.


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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Vampire_Chronicles



Vampiric gifts

Those who have lived for more than a thousand years are by far the most powerful of the vampires; they are called the Children of the Millennia (including Khayman, Mekare, Maharet, Marius, Pandora, and Mael). After several hundred years, and depending on the strength of their maker, vampires begin to exhibit special powers, referred to by most of them as "gifts".

* Mind Gift (the combined abilities of telepathy and telekinesis). This is the ability to communicate and read thoughts, especially of humans, and to move objects with the mind. This gift is used largely to obtain blood - since via telepathy a criminal or amoral human can be sensed, and many of Rice's vampires refuse to feed on the innocent, this allows them to identify their prey. It is impossible for a maker or fledgling to contact each other directly, although in some cases it is possible for a vampire to seek out their master/fledgling by looking through the eyes of those near their fledgling, or by hearing the thoughts of their master/fledgling through others in a relay effect. A vampire of sufficient power or age may also unwillingly 'hear' the thoughts of all the humans within range of this power, leading to an old vampire saying: "If you do not learn to silence the voices, they will drive you mad." Khayman of the First Brood possessed this level of telepathic power, but had trained himself to hear the multitude of thoughts as "one annoying noise." Older vampires may also possess the ability to move objects with the mind, as witnessed through Akasha's destruction of the Elder, or Akasha's habit of opening the doors to the tabernacle, and Marius' opening and unlocking the doors to Akasha's shrine in Blood and Gold.

* Spell Gift. Mentioned in Blood and Gold and Queen of the Damned, this gift allows a vampire to cloud the mind of a human, bending the human to his or her will. Marius employs the Spell Gift often, especially when employing humans to move Enkil and Akasha to a new location. Armand uses it almost exclusively to draw those who "wish to die" to him.

* Enhanced physicality and senses. All vampires have superhuman senses (sight, hearing, etc) and strength, and are able do things many times faster than humans can, with little or no effort. Eidetic memory from the moment of becoming a vampire seems to be natural, as Lestat tells David in Memnoch The Devil, however, memories of their humans lives, particularly those relating to sensation, fade over the years. They can move faster than the human eye can detect, see in the darkest of nighttime, pick one sound out of even the noisiest area, and raise the volume of their voice to painfully loud levels.

* Fire Gift. Another power usually only developed by a Child of the Millennia. This gift is known to be possessed by Marius, Akasha, Eudoxia, Thorne, Khayman, Lestat, Mekare and Maharet, and later the vampires Merrick Mayfair and Quinn Blackwood. With the Fire Gift, a vampire can set alight an object or being of their choice, for example, in Blood and Gold, when Akasha destroyed Eudoxia's body by fire, or in the film when she set fire to the vampires in bar and at the concert. Use of the gift on humans was performed by Lestat in Blood Canticle, when he set aflame gunmen on the tropical island. The Fire Gift is specially fatal to vampires, as the "changed" blood found within their bodies ignites easily, thus rendering them extremely vulnerable to fire.

* Cloud Gift (flight). Depending on the novels or the cinematic depiction, not all vampires have this ability. According to the books, Lestat, though young by vampire standards, gains this ability after repeatedly drinking Akasha's blood. Quinn Blackwood was given the strength to use this gift by his maker, Petronia. Otherwise, flight is a power only exhibited by the Children of The Millenia. Louis, Gabrielle, David Talbot, and Santino are among a few that do not have this gift or are never mentioned having it. Most if not all vampires dislike or even hate flying, as they find it extremely unsettling due to it being a sign that they are truly no longer human.

* Killing Gift. Believed to be possessed by the eldest Children of the Millennia, like most gifts it comes with age. Known holders of this power are Akasha, Marius, Lestat, Maharet, Mekare, Khayman and Mael. This power was originally combined with the Fire Gift in Queen of The Damned, but by Blood & Gold Rice had decided the two powers should be made separate abilities. The exact nature of the power is unknown, but it seems to cause numerous fatal ruptures in the entire cardiovascular system.

* Immortality. Unless killed by one of the vampire's weaknesses, namely sunlight and fire, or an elder vampire's powers, it is said that they have the potential to live eternally. As they age they become more powerful and slowly their skin becomes whiter, smoother, and more reflective, resembling marble as seen with Akasha and Enkil, Maharet, Mekare, and Khayman. Lestat and Jesse Reeves share much of this ancient appearance due to receiving blood from Akasha and Maharet, respectively. During their immortality, vampires will sometimes go into a kind of hibernation, either because they have become mentally unbalanced from knowing what they have become, or because their surroundings have changed too much for them to cope with. This is hinted to usually happen within 100–200 years of being created, and is mentioned as the "dangerous time" by the elders. Many vampires commit suicide if they continually exist in the world, leading to Marius' telling Lestat that he should live out one lifetime pretending to be human and watching the world change. Maharet is the only vampire explicitly said to have never "gone underground"; she has lived, night by night, for over six thousand years, mainly by keeping the records of her mortal daughter's descendants.

* Rapid Healing. Vampires are immune to most attacks other than their known weakness and even then are apparently able to heal quickly, especially if they feed or are covered in vampire blood. All vampires can potentially heal from any non-fatal wound, including decapitation, as proved by Mael in Blood and Gold, but time and blood are needed. A bullet wound, for instance, would heal within seconds, but serious burns from a fire would require decades, if not centuries, to heal. However, the greater the damage done to them, the stronger they will be when they are fully healed.


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are you trying to convince me or explain all their powers? b/c i already know them and have read all the books..


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Just sharing info, that's all.

Khayman, dude is a HOSS.


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Everyone knows Dracula Dead and Loving It will always be the best "Vampire" film.


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one of the powers that you forgot to mention or was not mention was the glamour unless it is also part of the spell gift..

the ability to cast illusions iirc armand nearly incinerated himself and was found by children who help nurse him to health they did not see a grotesque charred body but a lil beautiful boy in tights ala peter pan,,,


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Everyone knows Dracula Dead and Loving It will always be the best "Vampire" film.
No, that would be this movie:


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one of the powers that you forgot to mention or was not mention was the glamour unless it is also part of the spell gift..

the ability to cast illusions iirc armand nearly incinerated himself and was found by children who help nurse him to health they did not see a grotesque charred body but a lil beautiful boy in tights ala peter pan,,,
I know, there are alot more, I was just listing a few.


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i cant believe i completely forgot about the kill gift power that power alone is enough to pawn the tweens...

anyways the vamps can also see lil spirits and poltergeist and various other forms of entities..

hear and feel these beings as well as see fully shaped ghost of the person who recently died and have full conversatiuons as if they were real


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We'll see what the Twisupporters say.


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Vampire Chronicle vamps rape the TwiVamps cause the TwiVamps powers are all for defense and not even all of them have powers
probably the most usefull of the ones who do have powers would be Jasper's

and even if this takes place in the daytime, cant Lestat and Akasha walk around in the daytime?

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We'll see what the Twisupporters say.
not many ppl frequent the off topic forum i doubt you'll get much out of this thread.


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We'll see what the Twisupporters say.

probably their main argument is that the TwiVamps can walk around in the sun where Anne Rice's vamps are real vampires and dont sparkle

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probably their main argument is that the TwiVamps can walk around in the sun where Anne Rice's vamps are real vampires and dont sparkle
Lestat can walk in the sunlight after drinking from Akasha. If daylight became an advantage, Akasha simply let's each of her brethren drink from her in turn, problem solved.


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lestat can tolerate sun light well after akasha he had to fly above the clouds to get a good doze to try and kill himself and he landed in the middle east desert during the day.. his powers simply buried him and he woke up and he was lightly charred no big deal..

he actually liked his new tan made him look more human


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I think I remember Akasha being able to teleport?


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