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Asgard vs. Olympus

Which marvel pantheon of gods would prove superior in an all out battle? Both pantheons are toned down to their mythical power levels... Here are the matches

Zeus vs. Thor

Hercules vs. Magni

Baldur vs. Apollo

Tyr vs. Ares

Hoder vs. Hephaestus

Odin vs. Cronus

Typhon vs. Midgard Serpent

Sif vs. Athena


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Re: Asgard vs. Olympus

Zeus vs. Thor - Zeus

Hercules vs. Magni - Hercules

Baldur vs. Apollo - Apollo

Tyr vs. Ares - Ares

Hoder vs. Hephaestus - Hephaestus

Odin vs. Cronus - Odin

Typhon vs. Midgard Serpent - Midgard Serpent

Sif vs. Athena - Athena


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I dont think Odin beats Cronus; it took the combined might of Zeus, Posiden, and Pluto to defeat Cronus...


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I dont think Odin beats Cronus; it took the combined might of Zeus, Posiden, and Pluto to defeat Cronus...


It took Odin, Vili, and Ve to defeat Surtur. His brothers sacrifice themselves leaving only their powers to Odin - the Odinforce. So yeah, Odin should be able to beat Cronus.


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Didnt the OP say both pantheons were toned down to mythic levels?

In which case Odin is just Odin and not the Odin/Vili/Ve hybrid...


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odin with out the vili, ve powers should be about hades and poseiden level.

so it seems Zeus>> odin and his brothers
untill they decided to join power and creat the odin force

if thats correct then zeus can become more powerful than odin by fusing with hades and poseiden


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odin with out the vili, ve powers should be about hades and poseiden level.

so it seems Zeus>> odin and his brothers
untill they decided to join power and creat the odin force

if thats correct then zeus can become more powerful than odin by fusing with hades and poseiden
umm Zeus never combined with anyone this is the myth not the comics and in myths Odin had enough power to created the nine world i beleieve which should be above zeus's myth feats anyway


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umm Zeus never combined with anyone this is the myth not the comics and in myths Odin had enough power to created the nine world i beleieve which should be above zeus's myth feats anyway


Odin only created midgard (earth) using the dead body of the frost giant Ymir, and Zeus is much stronger than Odin.


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Odin only created midgard (earth) using the dead body of the frost giant Ymir, and Zeus is much stronger than Odin.
Yiour correct on the earth. However does Zeus have anything on Odin in terms of magic. Creating the world as far as i know is bigger then anything Zeus has don't??? Physical strength i don't think either have many feats in the myth??? The thing that puts the Greek gods over the norse is they don't age but thats about it


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The Olympians generally have a lot of extra powers in comparison to the Asgardians. What's been alluded to what Apollo can do for example is absolute madness.

And if Chaos War turns out the way I think it will, then Athena is the ultimate trickster God.


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Zeus vs. Thor - Zeus on average.

Hercules vs. Magni - Does Magni have Mjolnir? I'd wager his probably as strong as Thor or Hercules but he simply isn't established enough to win.

Balder vs. Apollo.

Tyr vs. Ares - Ares.

Hoder vs. Hephaestus - Not sure. I'd have said Hephaestus but Pak's recent take on him had him portrayed as a weak and invalid old man, which is much different from the condition we saw him in the past.

Odin vs. Cronus - Odin.

Typhon vs. Midgard Serpent - The Serpent.

Sif vs. Athena - Athena if she possesses Zeus' lightning bolt. Sif might still be able to win through battle field removal however.

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The Olympians generally have a lot of extra powers in comparison to the Asgardians.


Unfortunately this is true. When Kirby and Lee were on the title, they had each Asgardian with their one powers -at least the named ones- which was forgotten about. Most people don't realize that Sif has the ability to warp space with her sword or through her one making battle field removal a very easy tactic for her, or that Heimdall's powers. I think it's mostly because Asgardians are just secondary characters to Thor. Every time an Asgardian would have a chance to demonstrate a new power, Thor does instead etc.

We saw Simonson try bringing this back by really exploring Balder but this was forgotten when he left. Gillen showed some glimmer of this with the bullet redirecting feat from Balder, and having Tyr manifest his Godly Essence through his arm etc.


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What's been alluded to what Apollo can do for example is absolute madness.

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when writer stated he has enough power to blow the world up?

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Zeus vs. Thor - Zeus on average.

Hercules vs. Magni - Does Magni have Mjolnir? I'd wager his probably as strong as Thor or Hercules but he simply isn't established enough to win.

Balder vs. Apollo.

Tyr vs. Ares - Ares.

Hoder vs. Hephaestus - Not sure. I'd have said Hephaestus but Pak's recent take on him had him portrayed as a weak and invalid old man, which is much different from the condition we saw him in the past.

Odin vs. Cronus - Odin.

Typhon vs. Midgard Serpent - The Serpent.

Sif vs. Athena - Athena if she possesses Zeus' lightning bolt. Sif might still be able to win through battle field removal however.



Unfortunately this is true. When Kirby and Lee were on the title, they had each Asgardian with their one powers -at least the named ones- which was forgotten about. Most people don't realize that Sif has the ability to warp space with her sword or through her one making battle field removal a very easy tactic for her, or that Heimdall's powers. I think it's mostly because Asgardians are just secondary characters to Thor. Every time an Asgardian would have a chance to demonstrate a new power, Thor does instead etc.

We saw Simonson try bringing this back by really exploring Balder but this was forgotten when he left. Gillen showed some glimmer of this with the bullet redirecting feat from Balder, and having Tyr manifest his Godly Essence through his arm etc.


Rage the OP states that this is the myths version of these character not the comics Then again i don't think Mangi was every in myths since marvel made him


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odin with out the vili, ve powers should be about hades and poseiden level.

so it seems Zeus>> odin and his brothers
untill they decided to join power and creat the odin force

if thats correct then zeus can become more powerful than odin by fusing with hades and poseiden


Don't get wet just yet.

That was just Simonson's take in order to retcon Thomas' bull. Besides, the Odin that we see on a regular basis -the one Zeus' always compared to- and the pre merging Odin seemed to be the on the same level. However, he could assume a giant sized form which was the legendary warrior that allowed Odin to attain the full power created from the merge. That's what I recall from the Tiwaz' recollection. I'm only not 100% certain on the first part.

Full powered Odin > Odin =/> Zeus is how I'd rank them.


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typhon( although depowerd) is still no push over

he beat up namor, iron man, she hulk, hercules, and ares, beast and a few others all at the same time

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Rage the OP states that this is the myths version of these character not the comics Then again i don't think Mangi was every in myths since marvel made him


Myth versions? Then I don't have any interest in this thread.


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i think balder would of been better against ares
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Hephaestus has gone toe to toe with thor before

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Based on their brief skirmish, I'd say the two are peers. I don't think Balder is a superior warrior to Tyr however, whose done pretty decently against Thor in the past. Like I said, above, it's probably a split. Bendis and co. seems to place most of the named gods in the same range of power. Throwing in his godly essence might tip the scales in his favor even.

Context = Important

Hephaestus stalemated (Might have even gotten the edge) after jumping the Hela brittle bones stage Thor. The author emphazised the constant agony Thor was in and his degraded state.


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when writer stated he has enough power to blow the world up?

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Did he not say something along the lines of dropping the Sun on the Earth?

Edit...Nah he said...if he unleashed his full power the Sun's flames would consume the Earth.

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Tyr vs. Ares - Ares.


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