like, aside from Paul and just "libertarianism", do you have any hope for conservatism? Personally, I'd love something of the Burkeian or even Goldburg style, but it seems that even on an international scale, "conservative" parties are following what the GOP does, and it is becoming policy everywhere.
How do we make conservatives about empowering the individual again? how do we make it about standing up to all forms of authority, corporate or government?
One point wasn´t mentioned. If the companies all go offshore and the people who live in the west have no job & therefore no money, who is going to buy their produce?
Democrats in politics aren't without their faults but I'd love some evidence that Republicans care about the poor as well as the rich. It's not hard to believe that they value money more than country. Since we're a sophisticated country with many regulations that promote safety and environmental awareness, they'd rather build elsewhere where than can put people and the environment at risk to maximize profits that are already tremendous. Sacrificing some profit to ensure a better future for your workers would be the ideal thing to do but republicans will shut down their factories here instead. Then they will pretend that they are pro-life because that appeals to those in the moral camp. They are pro-rich but I'll gladly listen to evidence that they benefit anyone other than the rich.
America is a whore. Every single other country that outsources has failsafes in their trade policies that protect their jobs, we don't.
The truth of the matter is that there are enough wealthy people and consumers in Europe and asia willing to buy products that America could outsource right around 40% of the workforce and still have a healthy economy. You just do what some latin and south american countries have done and fence off gated communities with armed guards.
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Difficult problem. I can see multiple ways to facilitate it. Primary would be to erect protectionist barriers. Not my favored method as it would cause the prices of commodities to rise, but it would be the simplest and most difficult to avoid. Preferred method would be tax code reform and the heavy taxation of corporations in undeveloped countries.
Unfortunately, corporate lobbying makes this unlikely. Essentially, there is no solution. We're ****ed until an actual revolution takes place. With any luck, a new generation of young Republicans will sweep through and revitalize the party, debriding those serving as Reagan's thralls.
Eisenhower Republicanism. (That is to say, no.) Both parties at this point so ideologically opposed and combative that no real hope exists unless a progressive Republican gets into office and pushes both parties to the left.
Liberals demand government out of their lives but empower the welfare state while pushing for statist and "nanny state" policies. Neoconservatives support fascism in the guise of patriotism and are moral authoritarians despite claiming to be "small government."
Freedom exists under neither.
Kill the Baby Boomers. Hope for swift death for the Reagan Republicans. Demand accountability from our politicians. Pray for a charismatic leader to crush Reagan's ideology. But most of all, kill the Baby Boomers.
Is that like saying there is something about America that is anti-socialism?
We might part ways on some major points you've made, but pointing out the huge difference between these two conflicting republican ideaologies was great. thank you. Yes, let's tax off shore comapnies AND on-shore companies. While we're at it, lets tax churches, as well.
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They are not all about money I have no idea why they are always blame for that.Both the Dems and Republican make alot of money themselves and as for helping others.
It is like this Republicans do help the poor and The Dems are for themselves and help the poor with all the horrible walfare stuff.
Will this make a difference? People vote republican because they think voting democrat is voting for abortion...as if republicans don't get abortions. Really, people do think that the republican party is God's personal favorite because of it's pretend stances on society's moral issues. They play the hell out of the churchgoing people for real.
People vote Republican and Democrat because they're the only two main parties. Any other party would feel like a wasted vote.
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Jan 8th, 2011 11:03 PM
We're agreeing on something!
