byrdgang21
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Apocalypse & Mr. Sinister vs. Loki & Enchantress
Who wins?
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Sep 25th, 2011 08:37 PM
JakeTheBank
Return of the King
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Team 2.
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Sep 25th, 2011 08:45 PM
Eternal Idol
Lono, "The Dog"
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If nobody jobs, I'd go with Team 1. Apocalypse and Sinister have the potential to be two of the most intimidating characters on Marvel Earth.
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Sep 25th, 2011 09:16 PM
zopzop
Lord of the Great Abyss
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Eternal Idol
If nobody jobs, I'd go with Team 1. Apocalypse and Sinister have the potential to be two of the most intimidating characters on Marvel Earth.
Shhh, stop making sense
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Sep 25th, 2011 09:22 PM
Rage.Of.Olympus
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Team 2. Hard.
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Sep 25th, 2011 09:34 PM
SuperiorTech
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Eternal Idol
If nobody jobs, I'd go with Team 1. Apocalypse and Sinister have the potential to be two of the most intimidating characters on Marvel Earth.
I don't know man no jobbing Team 2 is who I would back when you are talking about the plot device that magic is and the level of it that is being wielded here.
Sep 25th, 2011 09:36 PM
Eternal Idol
Lono, "The Dog"
Gender: Male Location: 100 Bullets
quote: (post ) Originally posted by SuperiorTech
I don't know man no jobbing Team 2 is who I would back when you are talking about the plot device that magic is and the level of it that is being wielded here.
True. Magic can be the ultimate plot device.
Character A: "Holy [fornicate]! How the hell did you do that?! We should be dead by now!"
Character B: "Magic, brah."
While this is true, Apocalypse at his classic levels looked like a cosmic level beast, certainly above anything I've ever seen Loki perform. Sinister, given his full powerset, is definitely able to cause plenty of hell for the Asgardians as well.
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Sep 25th, 2011 09:43 PM
JakeTheBank
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"No jobbing" greatly benefits Loki and Amora, too.
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Sep 25th, 2011 11:07 PM
Eternal Idol
Lono, "The Dog"
Gender: Male Location: 100 Bullets
quote: (post ) Originally posted by JakeTheBank
"No jobbing" greatly benefits Loki and Amora, too.
True, but do they have the feats that rival classic Apocalypse's?
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Sep 25th, 2011 11:25 PM
JakeTheBank
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Eternal Idol
True, but do they have the feats that rival classic Apocalypse's?
Loki taking it to Thor and almost besting him straight up several times as well as his instance of owning the Thor Corps with a single casual blast indicate to me that, yes, he does, if not outright eclipse Apoc's feats.
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Sep 25th, 2011 11:29 PM
Eternal Idol
Lono, "The Dog"
Gender: Male Location: 100 Bullets
quote: (post ) Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Loki taking it to Thor and almost besting him straight up several times as well as his instance of owning the Thor Corps with a single casual blast indicate to me that, yes, he does, if not outright eclipse Apoc's feats.
You see, therein lies the problem. The addition of the word "Corps" after any superhero's moniker simply means "cannon fodder".
Thor Corps
Green Lantern Corps
Nova Corps
I'm sure there are others, too. Giving Thor hell in a straight-up, no PIS/plot device fight is something though. Just tell me it wasn't a purely melee fight...
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Sep 25th, 2011 11:34 PM
JakeTheBank
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Eternal Idol
You see, therein lies the problem. The addition of the word "Corps" after any superhero's moniker simply means "cannon fodder".
Thor Corps
Green Lantern Corps
Nova Corps
I'm sure there are others, too. Giving Thor hell in a straight-up, no PIS/plot device fight is something though. Just tell me it wasn't a purely melee fight...
Not sure how Beta Ray Bill, Eric Masterson, and Dargo Ktor are "fodder", but okay.
It wasn't, though Loki's skill with his Firesword and his own strength allows him to contend with Thor in close quarters, albeit briefly. Loki can give Thor a good fight when he wants to.
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Sep 25th, 2011 11:37 PM
zopzop
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Eternal Idol
You see, therein lies the problem. The addition of the word "Corps" after any superhero's moniker simply means "cannon fodder".
Tell me about it. BRB can give Thor hell in a one on one fight but he along with Dargo and Masterson Thor were swatted away by Loki.
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Sep 25th, 2011 11:39 PM
JakeTheBank
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by zopzop
Tell me about it. BRB can give Thor hell in a one on one fight but he along with Dargo and Masterson Thor were swatted away by Loki.
Loki's sorcery is pretty potent and it didn't hurt that they weren't expecting to face him as he was "dead" and all. Loki's sorcery can hurt Surtur, too.
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Sep 25th, 2011 11:40 PM
Eternal Idol
Lono, "The Dog"
Gender: Male Location: 100 Bullets
quote: (post ) Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Not sure how Beta Ray Bill, Eric Masterson, and Dargo Ktor are "fodder", but okay.
It wasn't, though Loki's skill with his Firesword and his own strength allows him to contend with Thor in close quarters, albeit briefly. Loki can give Thor a good fight when he wants to.
Ah, okay. Haven't kept up with comics lately. Beta Ray Bill is definitely a contender, though I never thought much of Masterson, and I never heard of Dargo Ktor until now.
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Sep 25th, 2011 11:40 PM
JakeTheBank
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Eternal Idol
Ah, okay. Haven't kept up with comics lately. Beta Ray Bill is definitely a contender, though I never thought much of Masterson, and I never heard of Dargo Ktor until now.
It was a while back, definitely not recent.
But yeah, the Thor Corps is solidly at least Mid-Heralds. Even if we write it off as a high showing or PIS, Loki still has plenty of feats to pick though to justify my stance.
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Sep 25th, 2011 11:43 PM
Rage.Of.Olympus
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Eternal Idol
While this is true, Apocalypse at his classic levels looked like a cosmic level beast, certainly above anything I've ever seen Loki perform. Sinister, given his full powerset, is definitely able to cause plenty of hell for the Asgardians as well.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Eternal Idol
True, but do they have the feats that rival classic Apocalypse's?
I also like how you were so certain Team 1 wins when you know little to nothing about Loki/Enchantress.
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Sep 25th, 2011 11:47 PM
Eternal Idol
Lono, "The Dog"
Gender: Male Location: 100 Bullets
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Less laughing, more scans.
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Sep 25th, 2011 11:48 PM
zopzop
Lord of the Great Abyss
Gender: Unspecified Location: Dreamlands
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I also like how you were so certain Team 1 wins when you know little to nothing about Loki/Enchantress.
Well we know Loki ran from Apoc.
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Sep 25th, 2011 11:49 PM
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