Is this a bad fight? You do realize that I am referring to the evil Silver Surfer from another reality right? He was able to catch a planet breaking punch from Gladiator with a smile.
Sbp was able to take on every top tier on dc earth and come out on top,flew thru the anti monitor and threw him across the solar system/galaxy dont rem which,took blasts from 3 guardians and only got bfred by one of them using all their energy....and nows hes powered up even further from then...silver surfer would get stomped seriously.
regular Surfer's taken a beating from creatures far above Guardians, and survived to complete his mission...
SBP does sound powerful, but more so physically than anything else. what top tiers did he beat? I don't know if Exiles Surfer could replicate the feat but I'm certain a regular 616 Surfer would rip through GLs, Flashes and Supermans without much trouble if he wanted to. Surfer has the powers and the speed to accomplish that at the very least, imo.
Surfer's also gone toe to toe with creatures that have dominion over their own universes, taking everything UniLord could throw at him (including smashing his body to bits, several times) and carrying on the fight and then stealing and absorbing all his powers out of spite. that's the kind of dynamic power Surfer has.
oh and he did safely digest and contain all the power of the Oan central battery too, if that helps to give some kind of reference point for his skills/powers as they would apply to DCU.
Surfer has been wrecked by people far less powerful then guardians or sbp or did we forget that surfer has flatout admited thor is stronger than him,and no surfer wouldnt tear thru all of dc earth including 3 kryptonians and 4-5 top tier gls,and I dont think there is any canon crossover with surfer containing the oan battery,surfer has a problem with top tier brawlers always has smp is so far above top tier its ridiculous.
that contention (Surfer being less powerful than Thor) is tenuous at best, the scan needs to be read in context.
there's also a scan where Thor tells the Avengers that they all (Thor included) could have died from a blast that Surfer fired at them only as a warning.
Surfer is in another league, higher, compared to Thor. imo of course. and his period on Earth, cut off from the Power Cosmic (by Galactus) isn't the reference point for Surfer vs SMP, let alone Exiles Surfer.
but back to your first comment, nobody would deny that Surfer has lost to far weaker opponents, it's what he and (to an unforgivably greater extent) Galactus does . that's still not going to detract from their fullest abilities, though.
Galactus doesn't cease to be able to consume the whole universe and mash up Celestials, just because he ran from a fight with Ego/Thor. and Surfer doesn't cease to put down whole armies of Skrulls just because he got arm-barred by Black Panther and struck by a lightning bolt from Storm.
anyway, as I said. I need more info/evidence and better argument before I'm swayed.
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Jan 16th, 2008 08:09 AM
. that's still not going to detract from their fullest abilities, though.
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