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Philosophía
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If Captain Marvel is an 100..

..in strength, where do the following characters stand:

Superman
Silver Surfer (can amp)
Wonder Woman
Sentry
Orion
Martian Manhunter
Beta Ray Bill
Mongul (without rings)
Shaggy Man
Thor
Hulk
Gladiator

...then same thing, only this time factoring overall physicall abilities, including speed, skill, durability etc. In short, overall physicall formidability.

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Rage.Of.Olympus
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Can we rate them higher than 100? Just making sure.

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Philosophía
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Of course.

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Sep 11th, 2009 07:48 PM

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THE HULK IS OVER 9000!!!

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If Billdawg is 100...

Superman - 75
Silver Surfer (can amp) - 74.5
Wonder Woman - 20
Sentry - 18
Orion - 75
Martian Manhunter - 17
Beta Ray Bill - 69
Mongul (without rings) - 68
Shaggy Man - 30
Thor - 72
Hulk - 12
Gladiator - 70

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Superman - 145
Silver Surfer (can amp) - 175
Wonder Woman - 95
Sentry - 95 (void ability included)
Orion - 110
Martian Manhunter - 115
Beta Ray Bill - 115
Mongul (without rings) - 75
Shaggy Man - 135
Thor - 150
Hulk - 110
Gladiator - 145

Hard to gauge the versatility vs a person really amazing single attribute. So I tried my best to be fair. This is by no means a ranking of who can beat who though... just a numeric grade for the culmination of all their abilities.

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Superman - 145
Silver Surfer (can amp) - 175
Wonder Woman - 95
Sentry - 95 (void ability included)
Orion - 110
Martian Manhunter - 115
Beta Ray Bill - 115
Mongul (without rings) - 75
Shaggy Man - 135
Thor - 150
Hulk - 110
Gladiator - 145

Hard to gauge the versatility vs a person really amazing single attribute. So I tried my best to be fair. This is by no means a ranking of who can beat who though... just a numeric grade for the culmination of all their abilities.

That's worse than my rankings...

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That's worse than my rankings...

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Sep 11th, 2009 08:10 PM

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Re: If Captain Marvel is an 100..

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Philosophía
..in strength, where do the following characters stand:

Superman
Silver Surfer (can amp)
Wonder Woman
Sentry
Orion
Martian Manhunter
Beta Ray Bill
Mongul (without rings)
Shaggy Man
Thor
Hulk
Gladiator

Strength

Superman- 150
Silver Surfer (can amp) - 90
Wonder Woman - 95
Sentry - 95
Orion - 125
Martian Manhunter - 90
Beta Ray Bill - 95
Mongul (without rings) - 85
Shaggy Man - 125
Thor - 95
Hulk - 125
Gladiator -100

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Hmmmm, Sentry and Thor in the same weight class...

Sep 11th, 2009 08:26 PM

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This is difficult, as none of these character's have say a set limit, and so on.

Strength:

Superman - 100 (In general.)/ 105 (Not holding back. He does have superior feats as well, which doesn't necessarily count for much as they are shown to be equals, but I think that deserves taking into account.)
Silver Surfer (can amp) - 100 (Higher if we use his ability to amp/absorb energy at the highest level we've seen.)
Wonder Woman - 95
Sentry - 97 (On a good day. Less or even higher depending on emotional state.)
Orion - 100 (In general.)/105 (Not holding back and in berserker state.)
Martian Manhunter - 97
Beta Ray Bill - 100
Mongul (without rings) - 85
Shaggy Man - Depends on incarnation.
Thor - 100 (In General.)/106 (When not holding back. Dude has arguably the largest strength reserve out there outside of amping.)
Hulk - At base he is way down the list, but he can amp in strength. Hard to gauge.
Gladiator - 100 (On a confident day. Lower or higher depending on how confident he is. At his peak he has shown some incredible strength)

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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
This is difficult, as none of these character's have say a set limit, and so on.

Strength:

Superman - 100 (In general.)/ 105 (Not holding back. He does have superior feats as well, which doesn't necessarily count for much as they are shown to be equals, but I think that deserves taking into account.)
Silver Surfer (can amp) - 100 (Higher if we use his ability to amp/absorb energy at the highest level we've seen.)
Wonder Woman - 95
Sentry - 97 (On a good day. Less or even higher depending on emotional state.)
Orion - 100 (In general.)/105 (Not holding back and in berserker state.)
Martian Manhunter - 97
Beta Ray Bill - 100
Mongul (without rings) - 85
Shaggy Man - Depends on incarnation.
Thor - 100 (In General.)/106 (When not holding back. Dude has arguably the largest strength reserve out there outside of amping.)
Hulk - At base he is way down the list, but he can amp in strength. Hard to gauge.
Gladiator - 100 (On a confident day. Lower or higher depending on how confident he is. At his peak he has shown some incredible strength)

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Wait a minute I thought we were guaging all abilkities not just strength... sad

Sep 11th, 2009 08:46 PM

Rage.Of.Olympus
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We're supposed to do both. I'm way to lazy to do the entire ability gauging list.

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Philosophía
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You cowards are afraid to rank the overall physicall category. Fine, take out the speed factor and take into account only skill, strength, durability and the like.

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Originally posted by kgkg
Strength

Superman- 150
Silver Surfer (can amp) - 90
Wonder Woman - 95
Sentry - 95
Orion - 125
Martian Manhunter - 90
Beta Ray Bill - 95
Mongul (without rings) - 85
Shaggy Man - 125
Thor - 95
Hulk - 125
Gladiator -100

Nice. I disagree a bit but, imo, most of that is spot on.

The Hulk you took into account is WWH, right ?

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Strength

Superman- 105
Silver Surfer (can amp) - Can we quantify him?
Wonder Woman - 100
Sentry - 95
Orion - 105
Martian Manhunter - 95
Beta Ray Bill - 100
Mongul (without rings) - 85
Shaggy Man - not sure
Thor - 100
Hulk - Varies, so not sure
Gladiator -105

I assume the OP wants us to only take into consideration these characters *physical* attributes (i.e. no magic, tp, energy manip, etc).

Superman- 110 (*physically superior imo)
Silver Surfer (can amp) - can we quantify him if he can amp?
Wonder Woman - 105 (big skill advantage, less durable, possibly faster)
Sentry - 90
Orion - 110 (skill advantage, tougher overall)
Martian Manhunter - 95
Beta Ray Bill - 105
Mongul (without rings) - 85
Shaggy Man - not sure
Thor - 110 (skill advantage, possibly more durable)
Hulk - 95
Gladiator -110

Eh, I give up lol

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Question, Why is Thor so low on the list(s)?
I really can't think of anyone that can over power Thor for him to be so low..

Sep 11th, 2009 08:55 PM

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Re: If Billdawg is 100...

Superman - 150
Silver Surfer (can amp) - 149
Wonder Woman - 40
Sentry - 36
Orion - 150
Martian Manhunter - 34
Beta Ray Bill - 138
Mongul (without rings) - 136
Shaggy Man - 60
Thor - 144
Hulk - 24
Gladiator - 149

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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Priest
Question, Why is Thor so low on the list(s)?
I really can't think of anyone that can over power Thor for him to be so low..

There isn't except Hulk potentially, but you know how it is with some people.

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