Dark Avengers Molecule Man runs the growing gauntlet of Elders...
In identical fashoin to some of my recent threads, Dark Avengers Owen takes on the Elders of the Universe in a growing gauntlet; once one round of combat is completed, the next begins immediately with no rest or recovery time for Owen...the Elders are restored to full strength after every round however.
All fights are to the Death or KO with no BFR allowed...
I can already see a certain idiot stating that he can't get past round 6 by default, because Ego is a planet and Dark Avengers Molecule Man was only capable of operating on a city wide scale.
He might stop at 4, if he doesn't have a way to deal with the Runner properly. If he has an answer for Runner, then I say he clears or at the very least makes it to round 6.
In the first on panel truth, Owen literally gauges the scale he controls by using a reference:
"I control the molecules of the world, well, the ones around me."
Translation for the laymen: I can't control molecules on a global scale! ... only molecules around me.
I mean, Norman had come into "his world" (close enough to him) to be affected by Owen.
The same detail applies to all the Avengers he owned. All at close range.
Second scan: Bendis again, tells us basically the same shit via another character named Victoria Hand.
** I'm not going to entertain this done debate, since those scans eliminate that potential anyway.
Your stupidity doesn't know any limits, you god damn liar.
Here is the actual breakdown of the events and the plot reasoning in the Dark Avengers comic with the Molecule Man - everything you said is straight up nonsense, which you're making up, because you have the reading and comprehension skills of a 5 year old:
And here is even more stuff, that exposes Mr. Master as a pathetic, butthurt liar:
Last edited by Enzeru on Aug 26th, 2014 at 05:13 PM
This is for everyone else, who is interested in the topic:
I... already did? He used his power to rip a +high herald apart. Someone, who operates on a city-wide scale doesn't do that.
On top of that: That's not even my main argument for Molecule Man being above that.
The problem is that a bunch of lowballers and downgraders here lie about facts in comics - they're not twisting stuff, they're straight up ignoring context. They lie about the context.
My main argument is that "Molecule Man was only operating on a city-wide scale" in Dark Avengers, because he was only interested in that city. He said that so many times in the comic. He said, that it was his hometown and he wanted to be left alone there. That he was only punishing the intruders. His power wasn't limited to the city.
But the lowballers and downgraders on KMC absolutely ignore that on panel fact-statement. They don't even pay attention to it. All they pay attention to is him saying that he is only controlling the molecules around him.
Then when you confront them with his other showing, where Molecule Man (a very powerful older version) got beat, because he got entrapped in a bubble without molecules, where he couldn't do anything inside, they choose to ignore that showing as well.
This board is full of frauds, who not only know how to properly argue comic book events, but they also lie about them in order to get their will through.
Owen was clowning around the entire fight, and jobbing into a loss,
even telling Aaron his weakness concerning organic molecules,
even waiting for Aaron to attack to show off by re-directing what Aaron threw at em.
For jobbing and waiting like an idiot for Aaron to attack, he lost.
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Awaiting the next excuse.
You should find another forum then if you feel this way.
Otherwise, your public hate filled scrutiny of KMC is out of line.
His quote on his IQ and you'd have to combine several people to come close to him? If he literally means to combine all their IQ, that means he thinks those posters have an average IQ of just under 25.
__________________ Bluewaterrider: "I'm surprised that a Skyfather like Zeus defeated Hulk when Zeus' Top-Tier son Hercules has lost to Hulk."
this is my stance:
we know owen's abilities vary(greatly) in accordance with his mental stability. this is important because during DA, owen was probably at the most mentally unstable i've ever seen him--creating various characters within his city/warp, of whom represented his various [split] personalities/moods. he also alluded to his range of influence being rather limited(city-level, in terms of feats), as opposed to the *unbounded* range of influence that he's displayed at his mentally stable peak.
so unless you believe that sentry was intended to be a multiversal+ power during dark reign/siege(if you do, i'm done with this debate, btw, as that is sheer idiocy), then we must conclude that owen's mental instability significantly neutered his overall power during DA--this, again, is why he didn't display a range of influence beyond city-level. now, i'm not saying that owen still wasn't quite powerful within his city/warp--heck, i could see the argument for him being ranked as a low-skyfather, judging by how effortlessly he dispersed sentry the first few times--but he was unquestionably far, far inferior to his nigh-omnipotent/multiversal+ mentally *stable* incarnation, that's for sure.
as for a 'city-level' character not being able to own sentry: you're not thinking 4th dimensionally . think of DA owen's city as a much more scaled down version of MJJ's warp. remember, 616 MJJ only warped a single universe on-panel, but he was still nearly all-powerful within that warp--not even omniversal powers, with a range of influence infinitely beyond what he had displayed at the time, could stop him. ie. the range of one's warp is not always indicative of one's power withIN said warp. ja feel?
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Could clear tbh. When did he try to expend his power pass city levels. Was it stated that's how far his scope in power is? If it was stated then there's no disputing it, if not, then why cap his power with assumptions?
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@carver9 ... below:
... and ... beautiful analogy.
I said this before: Owen didn't vaporize Sentry with an energy blast,
something a Thanos, or Odin would commonly use to crack Sentry.
Owen used his power (unstable or not) at close range to disperse Sentry's molecules,
and then he put them back together twice.
Regardless that Sentry's made of unique molecules, he's still made of molecules nonetheless,
and that falls right into Owen's power. (unstable or not)
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Not long ago people were taking IQ tests in the internet an linked the results on their FB pages. The lowest one, from the people in my f-list, was 125 and the highest beyond 140.I guess we live in a world of geniuses...
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Aug 25th, 2014 09:54 PM
... "Success breeds hate" it's said, so, I'm not surprised by this childish antic.
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Bluewaterrider: "I'm surprised that a Skyfather like Zeus defeated Hulk when Zeus' Top-Tier son Hercules has lost to Hulk."
