Beyonder. Keep in mind I'm saying Beyonder, not Kosmos or Maker.
Post Retcon Beyonder :
a) fought MM in a transmultiversal battle
b) erased Death from the multiverse
c) the mighty of the Multiverse (which included the LT/Eternity/Order/Chaos/etc.) couldn't stop him from doing what he did in b) and they couldn't undo what he did
d) he's created and populated a universe by himself
There's more but you get the point.
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Post Retcon Beyonder by himself did something it took LUCIFER + MICHAEL + Gabriel to do (create and populate a universe). How exactly is Michael > Post Retcon Beyonder again?
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..even the outer hells are indifferent matters for they bow only to potent and archaic Nodens.
The prime vertigo verse of which michael and lucifer made, contained an untold amount of multiverses, as evident from the additional one made in nirvana and the infinite collection of multiverses in the hall of souls which existed outside of any specific multiverse.
Vertigo was a omniverse as it contained an infinite number of multiverses and universes outside of those within it.
I would even say Lucifer by himself would beat pre retcon beyonder. He doesnt have the sheer output of power than Beyonder does but he is vastly more intelligent and manipulative. I think he would manipulate him without any real difficulty, prolly convince him to make himself mortal then kill him. Like in Secret wars 2 Beyonder is too prideful and simpleminded that Lucifer would easily beat him that way.
Have you even read Secret wars? Beyonder turned himself human just to make a point and left all his power in an hourglass. He was a retard compared to Lucifer lol, if u really dont think Lucifer outsmarting him and tricking him is a possibility im not sure youve even read the Lucifer series. seems all the ppl who call him overrated just look for stuff in respect threads or forums. no one would argue that Lucifer would beat TOAA
Lucifer is the most intelligent, manipulative and cunning character in comics without a doubt
Last edited by RangerDX on Jan 2nd, 2015 at 11:31 PM