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Blue Marvel & Spectrum vs. Shaman Nate Grey & Iceman

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Team 2.


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How does team 2 beat team 1?

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Blue Marvel lacks TP resistance fts and if anyone can counter Spectrum it is Iceman. She is a being made of energy, Iceman can freeze anything to temperatures below 0. Nate and Iceman are the kryptonite here.


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Blue Marvel lacks TP resistance fts and if anyone can counter Spectrum it is Iceman. She is a being made of energy, Iceman can freeze anything to temperatures below 0. Nate and Iceman are the kryptonite here.
it's not like Adam has resisted tp all the way back in the seventies and then proceeded to resist planetary level tp that or anything.


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How does adam put nate down?


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How does adam put nate down?
i'm not saying that he does, but to disregard his tp resistance feats is a little foolish.


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i'm not saying that he does, but to disregard his tp resistance feats is a little foolish.



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That's reasonable.


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Team 1 takes this all day every day. Since when does cold affect light?


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Cold affects energy. Team 2 wins this.

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Physical attacks mean nothing to him.


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it's not like Adam has resisted tp all the way back in the seventies and then proceeded to resist planetary level tp that or anything.


I know one of his TP resistance ft but when did he resist planetary TP?


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Cold affects energy. Team 2 wins this.

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Physical attacks mean nothing to him.


What do you mean? When does the lack of heat affect light? I know that it can affect a light bulb, or routing hardware; such as wires, and cabling, but how does it affect a being in light form? Also when has Iceman ever been able to defeat a character capable of holding his own against the Sentry? You're also comparing Ares with Adam, when Sentry was able to rip Ares in two.


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What do you mean? When does the lack of heat affect light? I know that it can affect a light bulb, or routing hardware; such as wires, and cabling, but how does it affect a being in light form? Also when has Iceman ever been able to defeat a character capable of holding his own against the Sentry? You're also comparing Ares with Adam, when Sentry was able to rip Ares in two.


Absolute Zero (which is what Iceman goes to). That is when energy is at its lowest state. It would be sucking the energy out of Spectrum *she's not just light, also heat).

Erm, no, I'm not comparing Ares with Adam. I'm comparing the fact that physical attacks do not affect Nate at all - you need something like a God, who exists on every plane of reality, to affect him.


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Shaman can warp space and time, two physical attackers will be pretty useless.


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Iceman has frozen energy before - specifically against the Stranger who was using energy beams emanating from his eyes. He's also been able to control chemical reactions that involve heat change in other people (sunfire and cannonball specifically, not allowing them to use their powers) so he's not just freezing water.

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How much below 0 can you get.

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Iceman freeze Strangers eye beams.

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It's to the point that he could probably turn her powers off.

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Like I've said, he IS her kryptonite. He would outright stomp her unless he is fighting dumb. Him knowing she is made of energy, can't see that happening.


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How much below 0 can you get.

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Iceman freeze Strangers eye beams.

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It's to the point that he could probably turn her powers off.

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Like I've said, he IS her kryptonite. He would outright stomp her unless he is fighting dumb. Him knowing she is made of energy, can't see that happening.


But what about how fast she can move? Does she sit there waiting for him to begin using his powers? It would be up to here whether or not she even allows him to do anything. She moves at the speed of light, thus she could end the confrontation before it even begins. Isn't this correct? I don't know too much about Nate, but is he invincible? Can no one defeat him?


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Adam can also amp Spectrum as well.

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