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Vector vs Magneto

Vector an Magneto in their prime. Who wins?


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Vector from U-Foes?

I think Magneto's got too many showings and can do too much with his powers.


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What could he do that Vector couldn't repel back at him?


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Well Magneto hasn't been limited to throwing things at people since....ever


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Vector, like the rest of the U-foes, suffer from severe PIS. At his best, Vector was repelling any and all energies around a compound that the U-Foes had overtaken. Mystic energy (from Dr. Strange), psionic energy (from Prof. X), electromagnetic energy (from various radars and stuff). Nothing could get through.

Vector is pretty beastly for what he is. I'm convinced he could ward off anything Magneto could throw his way. But at the same time, I'm not sure he has what it takes to put Magneto down.


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Vector is more powerful. At his best he was pushing back 'reality' with no effort at all and then he upped the blast.


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Fact: Oxygen (O2) is paramagnetic.

Magneto can draw ultra-cold oxygen from the upper atmosphere and direct the flow at Vector. If Vector doesn't repel it he will freeze to death... and if he *does* start repelling oxygen, he will suffocate himself.

Magneto wins.

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Has he ever done that and is keeping from push him into space or something?


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Has he ever done that and is keeping from push him into space or something?


Its all made up. Never happened on panel.


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Yeah thats way out there. laughing out loud
If that wrte the case then Vector just pushes the "bad" air away, keeping the "good".

Nice to see a U Foe getting some props though!


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Its all made up. Never happened on panel.


Check Uncanny X-men 202, he freezes a sentinel with such a trick.

Vector has NEVER shown the ability to selectively repel different gases, let alone selectively repel the SAME type of gas at different temperatures. He would be screwed.

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Check Uncanny X-men 202, he freezes a sentinel with such a trick.

Vector has NEVER shown the ability to selectively repel different gases, let alone selectively repel the SAME type of gas at different temperatures. He would be screwed.


Vector has repelled 'REALITY'. Are you really comparing gas to that?


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Vector has repelled 'REALITY'. Are you really comparing gas to that?


No. Read my post again.

Selectively --> only repelling one type of gas (lets say O2) at a time while simulteneously NOT repelling the other (say, N2). Let alone only repelling 'cold' gas while not repelling 'hot' gas.

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By all means, provide proof/reference if you think otherwise.

I have given the issue number where Magneto has used this type of attack ON PANEL. And I have explained how this would take out Vector. (He can either choose to repel it, and suffocate, or let it reach him, and freeze.)

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By all means, provide proof/reference if you think otherwise.

I have given the issue number where Magneto has used this type of attack ON PANEL. And I have explained how this would take out Vector. (He can either choose to repel it, and suffocate, or let it reach him, and freeze.)


Pretty sure Bobby had a lot to do with the scene you are mentioning.

Why would I need to provide proof of anything? The gas wouldn't even touch Vector if he is giving it his all (which he has a habit of doing sometimes). So this gas that you are talking about along with everything else, including Magneto, is getting ripped to shreds. Also, the battle takes place in a featureless environment, not on earth unless stated otherwise by the OP.


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Pretty sure Bobby had a lot to do with the scene you are mentioning.

Why would I need to provide proof of anything? The gas wouldn't even touch Vector if he is giving it his all (which he has a habit of doing sometimes). So this gas that you are talking about along with everything else, including Magneto, is getting ripped to shreds. Also, the battle takes place in a featureless environment, not on earth unless stated otherwise by the OP.


Bobby had NOTHING to do with it, he wasn't even there.

And you still fail to understand my argument. I'll try again with full capitalization. Maybe you are only able to register sentences written in full-caps, such as HULK SMASH etc etc....

IF VECTOR DOESN'T ALLOW OXYGEN TO TOUCH HIM, HE WILL SUFFOCATE.

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Bobby had NOTHING to do with it, he wasn't even there.

And you still fail to understand my argument. I'll try again with full capitalization. Maybe you are only able to register sentences written in full-caps, such as HULK SMASH etc etc....

IF VECTOR DOESN'T ALLOW OXYGEN TO TOUCH HIM, HE WILL SUFFOCATE.


And I can tell you didn't read my post. What is Vector repelling and where is it coming from?


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And I can tell you didn't read my post. What is Vector repelling and where is it coming from?


Oxygen. Vector is repelling oxygen.

If he doesn't, well, have you ever seen Red Tornado fight? Imagine those winds.


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And I can tell you didn't read my post. What is Vector repelling and where is it coming from?


Whether or not he is repelling it, is his choice (he will lose anyway)... but Magneto's attack in my scenario consists of a flow of ultracold oxygen drawn magnetically from the upper atmosphere.

The general battlegroud IS on a planetary surface, in a generic environment. That includes standard gravity, atmosphere, humidity, etc.

Or are you saying e.g. Storm auto-loses all of her fights because of your silly insistence of 'no environmental features'?

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