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7th Graders forced to recite "Allah is God"

http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...-public-school/

What is happening in this country?

On 9/11 we make deals with Iran and students are being indoctrinated into saying There is Only one God and his name is Allah.


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http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...-public-school/

What is happening in this country?

On 9/11 we make deals with Iran and students are being indoctrinated into saying There is Only one God and his name is Allah.


So they learned about a world religion and were asked about whether they had understood it by, among other things, stating what the Shahada says...

What's the controversy?


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actually this was a class project on the five pillars of islam, and like most things in school, required memorizing something and writing it down in a notebook.


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So they learned about a world religion and were asked about whether they had understood it by, among other things, stating what the Shahada says...

What's the controversy?


You simply missed the point and or downplaying. Where did you go to college?


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You simply missed the point and or downplaying. Where did you go to college?


It's not a big deal, it's just a knee jerk anti-islamic and anti-inellectualism reaction by some parents. Heidelberg and Guildford.


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So they learned about a world religion and were asked about whether they had understood it by, among other things, stating what the Shahada says...

What's the controversy?

Libtards are gonna libtard.


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Libtards are gonna libtard.



When in dire straights, downplay and say "it's not what it seems, and here is why!"


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Lol. TI's clickbait thread titles are getting to be Buzzfeed-level.

I'd be as upset as anyone if religion was being pushed on public school children. Hell, maybe more upset than TI. But that doesn't seem like what this is. The Principle's statement on the issue seems the only reasonable statement in that article. At worst, it's a slightly imbalanced curriculum; but it in no way seemed like indoctrination. This article only exists because of xenophobic parents and sensationalistic media outlets.

If there's, ya know, MORE along these lines, then there's a discussion to be had. Like, actual evidence that this was being taught with the intent to indoctrinate kids. But that article alone is just fear mongering. And unfortunately, sources like the one cited will always eschew journalistic rigor in favor of picking a side.


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Nothing you said refutes the truth.


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Libtards are gonna libtard.
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When in dire straights, downplay and say "it's not what it seems, and here is why!"


Yeah, you got me, you have uncovered the islamist, libtard conspiracy to indoctrinate the 7th graders of Maury County, Tennessee by talking about what Muslim's believe. I'm now trying to deflect, but it's useless cause you caught them red handed.


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TI,

Another example why it's important to read the story and not just the title.


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But we don't know the truth from that article. That's my point. We don't know how the lessons were presented, whether or not the assignments were posed as historical facts or with intent to influence. Etc. etc.

And please remember you're talking to an atheist with a huge belief in separation of church and state. If this seemed like indoctrination, I'd be livid. As it is, think about the assignments you had in school. If a parent had reason to be upset at this level of "forced" assignment, 90% of schoolwork could be called into question.

Thank goodness the teacher's name was kept out of the article. Tbh, the only fear I'd have from this story is reprisal from angry Christians spreading this story on backwater message boards like wildfire.


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Read the comments section, some of the islamophobic rants are lolzy.


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FYI, the article mentions they'll be doing a similar unit on Christianity later in the year. The parts that say they aren't are just the parents talking out of their ass. How in **** is this controversial?


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FYI, the article mentions they'll be doing a similar unit on Christianity later in the year. The parts that say they aren't are just the parents talking out of their ass. How in **** is this controversial?

Cos bigots


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You do know that Allah is literally the Christian God, the Christian God is literally the Muslim God, both are the Jewish God, and yadda yadda?

It would not be technically incorrect to call all three sects of a single religion (though each are so big that's rarely done).


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TI,

Another example why it's important to read the story and not just the title.


It's important for you to read the story, I suggest you do.


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It's important for you to read the story, I suggest you do.


Fine, I'll highlight the important bits for you:

Jan Hanvey, Maury County Public Schools’ middle school supervisor, said that most of the three-week unit discussed things like government, culture, geography, and economics, rather than theology. She also said that the chapters on Christianity and Judaism are scheduled to be taught at the end of the year with the “Age of Exploration” unit.

“It is our job as a public school system to educate our students on world history in order to be ready to compete in a global society, not to endorse one religion over another or indoctrinate,” Marczak said.


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I didn't ask for the high lights from that excellent copy/paste job.

I said read it.


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Everyone here read it, it's not very long. It's not a big deal, they taught students about Islam, that's perfectly fine.


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