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Crossbones Vs Bane

Pre-Flashpoint Bane.

1. Bane without venom
2. Bane with venom

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big advantage to bones because of his love of weapons... we've seen the tubes that provide venom to bane cut and disabled too many times to think some as string and skilled as bane not be able to do it. given that he's matched cap a couple times in speed and strength and is close in skill....no venom bane loses for sure imo. with venom he could def win if he can disarm bones but i don't think it's a sure thing still.


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Bones in the first, split in the second. Bones is a bonofide ringer who can sometimes fight Captain America evenly and Cap >> Batman.


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Bane breaks him in half.


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big advantage to bones because of his love of weapons... we've seen the tubes that provide venom to bane cut and disabled too many times to think some as string and skilled as bane not be able to do it. given that he's matched cap a couple times in speed and strength and is close in skill....no venom bane loses for sure imo. with venom he could def win if he can disarm bones but i don't think it's a sure thing still.

Nope. Bane beats bones with or without Venom.

Too strong, too fast, too skilled.


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Nope. Bane beats bones with or without Venom.

Too strong, too fast, too skilled.
let me guess, bones is only a B level character with B List skill and D List gear? In a normal fight, rumlow has banes number before he even gets close. It's only in the second fight that bane actually has a chance to win.

1. Crossbones shoots bane to death 8/10
2. Could go either way


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Guns is pretty strong in a matchup like this...


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What is Crossbones standard gear? B/c anything short of an automatic weapon, Bane had routinely dodged, tanked, or disarmed. He mostly fights against opponents that use projectiles.

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What is Crossbones standard gear? B/c anything short of an automatic weapon, Bane had routinely dodged, tanked, or disarmed. He mostly fights against opponents that use projectiles.
he usually carries between 2-4 semiautomatic handguns, one full auto submachine gun, 2-4 grenades, one assault rifle (depends on the writer, but it's usually something like an m-16), and a combat knife or two. He has been known to occasionally use a flamethrower, rpg, throwing knives, or even a sniper rifle.

Up close, bane could feasibly take him. At range/standard starting distance, rumlow should have take the win.


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let me guess, bones is only a B level character with B List skill and D List gear?


No, because he has an abysmal record.
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In a normal fight, rumlow has banes number before he even gets close. It's only in the second fight that bane actually has a chance to win.

1. Crossbones shoots bane to death 8/10
2. Could go either way


laughing out loud

Maybe you should read some Batman comics.

Bane would honestly rip Bones arms off in a fight.


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No, because he has an abysmal record.

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Maybe you should read some Batman comics.

Bane would honestly rip Bones arms off in a fight.
I wouldn't call beating down captain america, evenly fighting bucky, evenly fighting falcon, destroying bullseye, matching wolverine, having the upper hand against deadpool, or being taskmaster's best student abysmal. But I'm sure that you have just enough low showings to bring up and normal showings to ignore for us to stretch this argument to the fourth or maybe even fifth page.

He's not going to win. He's been hit plenty of times and had his venom tube cut in a cap load of fights. Rumlow opens up on him with an m-16 at the start of the fight and keeps his distance long enough for bane to sustain serious injuries and then he finishes him up close. It's still a good fight though.


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I wouldn't call beating down captain america, evenly fighting bucky, evenly fighting falcon, destroying bullseye, matching wolverine, having the upper hand against deadpool, or being taskmaster's best student abysmal. But I'm sure that you have just enough low showings to bring up and normal showings to ignore for us to stretch this argument to the fourth or maybe even fifth page.


Considering he had been beaten in every fight of note against Steve, lost to ****ing Black Widow, Misty Knight, Diamondback and likes of that, yes he has an abysmal record.

I like how fighting Falcon or beating Bullseye is supposed to be a feat.

We are talking about Batman level beings here. Not Robin level.
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He's not going to win. He's been hit plenty of times and had his venom tube cut in a cap load of fights. Rumlow opens up on him with an m-16 at the start of the fight and keeps his distance long enough for bane to sustain serious injuries and then he finishes him up close. It's still a good fight though.


Even without Venom Bane can straight up manhandle Captain America.

Rumlow would get the talon treatment, get ripped limb from limb.


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Crossbones doesn't get any guns here. He has a knife and that's it. This is mainly a physical fight. Battle of skills, strength, and speed.

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Abhi u feel like Bane is above Cap?


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Crossbones doesn't get any guns here. He has a knife and that's it. This is mainly a physical fight. Battle of skills, strength, and speed.
then I favor Brock in the first fight and he loses after a good fight in the second.
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Abhi u feel like Bane is above Cap?
shouldn't have asked that. He's going to post scans of that crossover and then state that because bane picked him up, he was getting manhandled and it's canon and nobody can prove otherwise.
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Considering he had been beaten in every fight of note against Steve, lost to ****ing Black Widow, Misty Knight, Diamondback and likes of that, yes he has an abysmal record.

I like how fighting Falcon or beating Bullseye is supposed to be a feat.

We are talking about Batman level beings here. Not Robin level.

Even without Venom Bane can straight up manhandle Captain America.

Rumlow would get the talon treatment, get ripped limb from limb.
in their most recent fight, he was the one that was winning.
wow. I totally wasn't expecting you to bring up low showings and act like they are standard for the character.

You mean the same falcon that was trained by captain America himself or the very same bullseye that has beaten daredevil before?


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Without guns Crossbones is absolutely ****ed.


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Without guns Crossbones is absolutely ****ed.


W/o guns, he has bitched Steve Rogers.


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W/o guns, he has bitched Steve Rogers.


Rogers is no Bane. With Bane there is no escape.

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good thing that's new 52 then. What's even better is that bane doesn't have venom in the first fight.

does bane happen to have some sort of feat of resisting getting his throat slit?


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Bane without venom also no sold Catman's punch. He was also stated to be meta without venom, pre-flashpoint.

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