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Darth Caedus vs Darth Nihilus *Force Only*
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Deronn Solo
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Darth Caedus vs Darth Nihilus *Force Only*

*Peak Caedus*
*Peak Nihilus*
Round 1: Jacen is well aware of Nihilus giga-drain
Round 2: Random encounter; no drain
Round 3: Random encounter - all powers/abilities are fair game.


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Nihilus in every round.


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Nihilus in every round.

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Curious as to what Jacen would do here.

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Probably Nihilus

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Lmao Caedus is ****ed


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Curious as to what Jacen would do here.


Wasn't it brought up a while ago that Nihilus had a weakness in that he couldn't perceive someone who could cloak their force signature? If so, then Caedus can definitely win Round 1 with prior knowledge, because that's one of his specialties.


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Wasn't it brought up a while ago that Nihilus had a great weakness in that he couldn't perceive someone who could cloak their force signature? If so, then Caedus can definitely win Round 1 with prior knowledge, because that's one of his specialties.


Perhaps. I can't imagine Caedus winning in any other way. Though this only works in round 1. In the others, it's a random encounter and Caedus doesn't know anything about Nihilus.

That said, even if Caedus did cloak himself, that doesn't constitute a win. He'd still have to hit Nihilus with a Force power, which would make this a more traditional fight and one that I can't exactly see Caedus winning.

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Not necessarily; it could be like Arnold vs Predator where Nihilus is getting hit but can't effectively counter without being able to see his assailant.

Also, why couldn't Caedus win otherwise? Nihilus may be a wraith, but the armor that he's bound to is physical and can be damaged.


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Not necessarily; it could be like Arnold vs Predator where Nihilus is getting hit but can't effectively counter without being able to see his assailant.


We'll have to see what the setting and distance is, because I'm not seeing why a broad Force Wave or Storm wouldn't work. The only thing that wouldn't be effective if Caedus was invisible to him is Drain.

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Also, why couldn't Caedus win otherwise? Nihilus may be a wraith, but the armor that he's bound to is physical and can be damaged.


Because Nihilus comes off as more powerful? Particularly in the latter round, where he's allowed Drain.

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Jacen wins rounds 1 and 2, but probably dies in 3.


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Does he win 2?

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Probably.


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How so?

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Just impresses me more, I suppose.


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With what?

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Just strikes me as more powerful and more versatile a Force user; what with casually manipulating ships pre-prime whereas Nihilus needed a nexus and a gravity well.

Then of course there's his defensive capabilities, where even as a Jedi he easily blocks blasts from capital ships, IIRC.


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How on earth does a gravity well improve the situation for Nihilus? He also grows significantly in power afterwards following Katarr, not to mention that even if you disregarded that, the nexus would in no way substitute for the fact that Nihilus manipulated literally thousands of times the mass that Caedus did.

Jacen "easily" blocks blasts from capital ships? Where?

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Meh, fair enough. I don't have time to debate, atm. I'm still working on my counter on Shan vs Maul.


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Jacen "easily" blocks blasts from capital ships? Where?


He doesn't, it was debunked.


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