Let's pretend you didn't know who Captain America is. Didn't know about him from comics or cartoons, don't know anything about his powers and limitations. Then one day you're made to watch all of the MCU movies that have Cap in them, so you only have the movies as your basis for how powerful he is. Who's the most powerful character you think he can beat in melee?
Cap gets his shield and his opponent gets whatever standard equipment they usually have. Remember, don't let your knowledge of Cap outside the movies sway your judgement.
Not sure what you mean, but I'll guess you mean why do we give pis showing s to Cap and (can't speak for anyone else) I tend to overlook other characters Pis showings? My personal answer is that they happen on screen thus can be evaluated and also the consistency of his feats.
I know it's because Spidey is a rookie right now, but rook or not, he should have destroyed Cap effortlessly. Where was his Spidey sense when Cap dropped the damn cargo bridge on him?
I also found it weird how Spidey could completely dominate Bucky and Falcon yet have such a hard time with Cap. In TWS, Bucky was roughly equal to Cap. In Civil War pretty much everybody beats him up. From Black Panther to IM to Spidey.
No roughly. In the Director's Commentary for TWS, the Russos themselves described them as "equals". And, to be fair, without plot armour, Cap should have lost to both Spiderman and IM as well (but it was his movie, not theirs). Losing to people with superior stats and/or weaponry isn't exactly what I would call low showings. Steve just got hyped up because it was his film. Plus, Tony actually wanted to hurt Bucky. He just wanted Steve out of the way. He never gave Bucky the "final warning" option. In fact, he tried to shoot him in the face with a missile at one point. Also, WS was hardly in the fight with Falcon and Spiderman. His interaction consisted of throwing one punch, throwing a sign, and trying to shield Falcon from Spiderman, which resulted in all of them crashing through that railing and him and Falcon getting pinned down.
And the only time Black Panther had a decisive edge over WS was in his suit (which even allowed him to overpower the robo arm on multiple occasions, rendering Bucky's best option useless), which is hardly a fair fight, considering Winter Soldier (for some dumb reason) chose to H2H throughout 95% of the film, even though pretty much everyone else was packing weapons. And Black Panther also wanted him dead, whereas he just wanted Cap out of the way. And the one direct encounter between Steve and Bucky, in CW, did not go well for Steve. He got overwhelmed and BFR'd in under 15 seconds. Yes, he got caught somewhat by surprise, but it's not like he hasn't fought a brainwashed Bucky before.
In anyways, Steve "beat" Spiderman by using the environment to pin him down. I saw nothing in that fight to indicate that Steve could put Peter down for the count using pure skill and striking power. It took getting tagged by Giant-Man to to have any serious effect on him, and Scott was casually tearing towers and planes apart, and kicked a bus like it was a soccer ball.
Edit: To be honest, I was riding the Civil War hype train right after it came out but, after some time to think, there really are a lot of character inconsistencies in that film (mainly for the sake of plot). Which is why I now still consider TWS to be the better film of the two.
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