Without superhuman strength, Flash would do little more than annoy Hulk, and Hulk would never lay a finger on him. "DarkClaw" is another matter. He is outclassed by both of his opponents.
Flash can vibrate through Hulk and the shock would make the Hulk falling unconscious, or anyway hurt him, when Wally vibrate through things they explode, understand?Or he can simply hit him at hyperspeed, i mean around mach 80 or more and the Hulk would fall down.Or he can take a piece of titanium and stuck it in Hulk's head at hyperspeed, killing him.Or he can throw an ICBM missile at Hulk through increasing his molecular movement.Or he can go the X-Men's mansion, take Wolverine and throw him at hyperspeed at Hulk's chest, Logan's claws would pass through his heart then Wally would catch Logan and stuck him in Hulk's brain then would put Logan back into the mansion before he notice that he's surrounded of green blood.
wtf are you talking about, dark claw is wolverine plus batman, and how would he do all this with wolverine without him noticing it, so many plot holes in that lol
...And Hulk would regenerate. Killing Hulk is out of the question. Now I believe that Flash runs much slower than the speed of light. He also does not possess superhuman strength.(How the hell would he throw Wolverine at the Hulk hard enough to... never mind.) Hulk's invincibility would protect him from such attacks; His skin is nigh impenetrable. Flash isn't strong enough to throw anything with that much force. WITHOUT WEAPONS, Flash could not defeat Hulk.
Your answers sound me more stupid.
Hulk's skin was cut by Logan with his adamantium claws before.Flash doesn't need to reach lightspeed, and anyway he's NOT SLOWER than lightspeed.You don't know nothing about him if you say so.He doesn't need to approach ls, arriving at mach 30 against Hulk is sufficient.Flash can catch Wolverine after Logan extract his claws and run at Hulk at speed that would rend him invisible to Hulk's eye.He can do it.
Or he can simply use an adamantium weapon such like a sword or a pole to stab Hulk's head or brain, and hit them until they are too much damaged to grant Hulk regeneration chance.Oh and can you explain me why the Hulk can't die after the Flash vibrate through him and make him explode?Hulk isn't immune to phase shift users.When Flash vibrate is also intangible so bye bye Banner and Hulk.
K3vil your story didnt even make sense, hes just saying it didnt. an adamantium weapon where is he getting these? dude you have no idea what your talking about do you?
Flash, Hulk's organs can regenerate. If there are any remains of Hulk, he will regenerate, as his cells rapidly multiply. Hulk's skin is much tougher than most materials. If Flash could indeed "vibrate" through Hulk he would probably not explode. If it were that easy, he would have done it to Doomsday, or any other enemy.
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Flash isn't even as strong as Wolverine. How could he throw anything with enough force to pierce Hulk's skin, much less his skull? And please show me a comic book that says flash travels faster than light. DC says that Flash travels at 128 miles per second, max. Light travels at 186,282 miles per second. He is much slower than light.
Once Flash is in the speed force, all his punches and everything he throws at people are way strong. Flash was chopping some trees when he was racing Superman.
He wouldn't be using speedforce against Hulk, he only uses it while hes running at top speed. And I doubt it would make it strong enough to hurt Hulk. I thought speedforce was a forcefield that protected Flash while he runs. I stilll don't think there would be a winner, If Flash could beat Hulk, he would beat Doomsday for the same reasons. Doomsday may be a little faster than Hulk, but he's nowhere near Flash's speed.
The Flash has stupid as feats that involve him moving close to a trillion times faster then the speed of light... and others where he is getting tagged by the likes of Deathstroke. Flash's mass increases to infinity (don't ask me why DC threw that in there and still allowed him to not only reach the speed of light but surpass it) when he hits light speed so. he hits hard.. I don't know... does the speed for make him stronger... ba lets just the Flash is a dumb character and leave it at that.
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Well, argueably, Flash is one of DC's most powerful characters. THe speed force allows him to do a crazy amount of sh*t. Of course, it's not shown all the time, because it would make for very, very short and unteresting stories. Most of what K3VIL said, is more or less true. And, Flash CAN create enough force for something to penetrate Hulk's skin. It has nothing to do with strength, he can connect any object to the speed force and throw it at extreme speeds, and as speed increases, so does mass, which is why it's not completely impossible for Hulk's skin to be penetrated, and what can make any of his punches stronger as well.
Here's some basic info on the current Flash, if you don't know:
Oh, and there's a very good reason why Flash didn't beat Doomsday using his powers to the fullest, it's called CIS (Character Induced Stupidity). That's when writers don't have characters use certain abilities, usually for the sake of not making the fight look so easy, or for the sake of jobbing. That's what they kinda did to Gladiator when he fought Hulk.
Thank you Tron for confirming what i say.
Another good guide to Flash powers is STARNET Metahuman Database, it explains in a good manner his powers.
Anyway srank Deathstroke beating Flash was one of the dumbest story i ever read in a comic book, a good example of crap writing.
Flash does not move at trillions of times the speed of light. If he did he'd be nearly unstoppable. He runs at a fraction of the speed of light, 128 miles per second exactly, That would be 1/1455 the speed of light. According to this site if he can tap into speedforce (which takes effort) he can run AT the speed of light, not faster (another fansite Tron? use a comic next time to prove your point.) The Flash's speedforce forcefield allowed him to cut down the tree while extending his arm withot injuring himself. That doesn't mean he is stronger; the force protected his arm. Mass increases with speed? I think you are refferring to momentum. I am still skeptical of Flash being able to vibrate through Hulk and cause him to explode. If you provide evidence of him doing this to someone (not something) else I will accept this argument. And where would Flash get these weapons? Does he carry adamantinum rods or some other weapon with him usually? Are weapons allowed in this thread? I don't see a winner.
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