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Rightists have made Anger part of American political discourse.

Ben Shapiro is not someone I had heard of until I watched Andrew Neil destroy him.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PRF3r...youtu.be#dialog

Andrew Neil uses Shapiro's own hate filled rhetoric on issues like abortion and Arabs to undermine his position. Shapiro had been gaslighting about how all he wanted was to discuss ideas.

Beyond this interview it raises many salient points about the polarisation going on in Trumps America and the wider world and how these right wing talking heads promote hate and spread intolerance.

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LoL. Yet another example of leftists projecting.

Oh pooty.... smh. no


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Ben shapiro simultaneously says he's an observing jew and an american who adheres to america ideas, but also talks about aristotelian philosophy. Either one of these would be fine to talk about on it's own but he just smashes them together, without pointing out inconsistencies.

I like that he believes in freedom of speech, as i think it's a master value, but he uses his freedom to sound like a swarmy manlet and it drives me crazy because he's been grouped in with public intellectuals that i like.

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Ben shapiro simultaneously says he's an observing jew and an american who adheres to america ideas, but also talks about aristotelian philosophy. Either one of these would be fine to talk about on it's own but he just smashes them together, without pointing out inconsistencies.

I like that he believes in freedom of speech, as i think it's a master value, but he uses his freedom to sound like a swarmy manlet and it drives me crazy because he's been grouped in with public intellectuals that i like.
Like I said, I had no idea who he was till this incident. He really does seem like a little *****.

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Like I said, I had no idea who he was till this incident. He really does seem like a little *****.


Picture him with ventriloquist dummy mouth lines... Youre welcome.

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Ben is amusing cuz he's a jew who always wears a yarmulke and yet is deemed a white supremacist by some on the left


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Like I said, I had no idea who he was till this incident. He really does seem like a little *****.


Ben Shapiro is very popular here with KMC's Trumper Squad.

He's the one who said "people will just sell their beach homes" as a way to hand-wave away real concerns with climate change and rising sea levels.


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In fairness to Shapiro, he fully admitted how terrible he came across in that interview. I like how Andrew Neil laughed at being called a leftist.


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Ben is amusing cuz he's a jew who always wears a yarmulke and yet is deemed a white supremacist by some on the left


Zionism isnt that different from white nationalism

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Ben Shapiro is very popular here with KMC's Trumper Squad.

He's the one who said "people will just sell their beach homes" as a way to hand-wave away real concerns with climate change and rising sea levels.
He just seemed another youtube **** when Neil a conservative and quite right of centre destroyed him.

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He just seemed another youtube **** when Neil a conservative and quite right of centre destroyed him.



He is essentially little more than a Rightist YT ranter and gasligher, except he has a website too. He's the "cool kids philosopher".

But you see what happens when he debates someone who knows what they're talking about, they smash right through his house-of-cards positions and Shapiro rage-quits as his only defense.


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He is essentially little more than a Rightist YT ranter and gasligher, except he has a website too. He's the "cool kids philosopher".

But you see what happens when he debates someone who knows what they're talking about, they smash right through his house-of-cards positions and Shapiro rage-quits as his only defense.
It was humiliating, tbh, he wanted the kind of youtube shit and Neil wanted a discourse.

Sad tbh.

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I can only imagine how it would've went if Jeremy Paxman was still doing his thing.


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I can only imagine how it would've went if Jeremy Paxman was still doing his thing.
that would have been a bloodbath. I would love to see a fully researched Paxman vs Peterson... the entertainment would be hilarious.

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Where was the destruction?

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In fairness to Shapiro, he fully admitted how terrible he came across in that interview. I like how Andrew Neil laughed at being called a leftist.


Yes, he did.


I don't watch shapiro, at all, but I did see a little of this embarrassing debate.


I don't know, to me it looked like he was overly defensive, as though he expected an avalanche of mud slinging.



Which, to be fair, is kind of how debate IS on this side of the pond.


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Yes, he did.


I don't watch shapiro, at all, but I did see a little of this embarrassing debate.


I don't know, to me it looked like he was overly defensive, as though he expected an avalanche of mud slinging.



Which, to be fair, is kind of how debate IS on this side of the pond.


Yeah that was my thinking. When you're used to nothing but confrontational partisan hackery it's not immediately obvious when you're in front of someone with probing questions but without an agenda.

Andrew Neil, in his personal political beliefs, is as conservative as they come but he questions people on either side of the spectrum with equal vigour. There's many videos of him challenging those on the left equally as hard as he did with Shapiro.


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I'm not surprised Shapiro triggers snowflake leftists.He's smarter than all you snowflakes put together.

Oh, and Zionism is nothing like white nationalism. Disappointing to see we have yet another Israel-hating bigot on this board who probably thinks (as the Palestinians do) that Israel has no right to exist as a nation.


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I'm not surprised Shapiro triggers snowflake leftists.He's smarter than all you snowflakes put together.

Oh, and Zionism is nothing like white nationalism. Disappointing to see we have yet another Israel-hating bigot on this board who probably thinks (as the Palestinians do) that Israel has no right to exist as a nation.


I dont hate israel, i was saying jewish nationalism is similar to white nationalism. Nationalism is nationalism. Israel are our boys and we share intelligence.

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