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Perpetua and The Writer (Animal Man) vs Yog Sothoth and Azathoth
DC's two most powerful beings take on the most powerful deities of the Lovecraft pantheon. Fight takes place in an omniversal sized wrestling ring. Bloodlusted/ no Pis
Well I think Perpetua is probably the weakest character here. Technically if Azathoth and the Writer are both truly omnipotent, it”s a stalemate, but team 2 has more firepower as a duo imo, since I have Yog >>> Perpetua.
__________________ ”You presume limits to my power. There are none.”
Dark multiverse is modal realism cosmology that everything is possible as cosmology.
Does Cthulu have cosmology which is comparable to Dark multiverse?
He's not though. He's a "fiction suit" as Morrison puts it, and he's a fictional character like everyone else, even if Morrison intended for him to have some god-like qualities at the time.
Where are you getting this from? Certainly not the comics.
Well, he”s not the representation of all DC writers. Grant says as much in the comic itself.
I”m kinda torn on how to view the Grant Morrison avatar as far as being a “Supreme Being” is concerned. In the context of whatever comic he”s writing, he can write his real world self in as an omnipotent force, but how do we compare that to something like the Presence/Source? Even in Morrison’s view, I”m not sure the RW writer avatar would be seen as “superior” to the Overvoid, given it is meant to be the blank canvas upon which “The Writer” is able to conceive of and create this world in the first place. Furthermore, one Writer avatar does not have total license/control over the entire DC Omniverse (I.e. Grant could not write himself into a comic slapping the Presence unless he was given the power/authority to by the RL DC creators). It”s not the same as something like TOAA being the representation of Stan Lee, because Stan Lee has supreme power/authority across ALL of Marvel.
While I disagree with pretty much every argument Astner made in that thread, I do agree that just because Morrison can insert himself as a supreme/omnipotent force in a specific story, it doesn”t necessarily make him omnipotent in the same sense as a character like Azathoth or The Presence. I”m not sure even Galan believes that is the case, as there is no way this could possibly be a stalemate if we”re assuming Grant has the same power/authority in this fight as he does in the Animal Man comics. And if he doesn”t...there isn”t really a way to quantify him anyways.
__________________ ”You presume limits to my power. There are none.”
Looking back at the thread it's interesting that Galan dismisses Suicide Squad #58 because Grant Morrison didn't write it, and Flex Mentallo because it was a Vertigo imprint rather than a DC imprint despite being written by Morrison.
Either way, from a technical standpoint the Writer (the character) is canonically dead. And as far as I'm aware Morrison hasn't even mentioned the character in any other work, from which a meaningful relation to the Overvoid could be made.
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