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Re: Mace Windu vs. Dooku
Given that:
- multiple independent sources label TPM Mace Windu as a rival of Yoda
- given Yoda's age, it's unlikely that his power level changes that much, and indeed is more likely to lower
- Dooku's duel with Yoda, given the contradicting sources on how large Yoda's advantage was, is best reconciled with Yoda's matching Sidious given Dooku's large inferiority to him by noting that Yoda likely wasn't going all-out, given that he admitted he doesn't want to kill him in Dark Rendevous, and that Sidious was surprised by his power in RotS
It seems like Mace Windu should take this.
Simple transitive logic, as AotC Mace > TPM Mace by any rational interpolation.
Is Dooku a "rival" of Sidious by RotS? Clearly not. Mace wins.
Dooku is said to have been the only one to match or best Mace in a duel besides Yoda and he only got more powerful as a Sith Lord so he can concevably win any fight with Mace up until AOTC, afterwards Mace has the entirety of the Clone Wars to get stronger to the point that he can actually fight on even ground with Sidious for a time
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I'd side with Windu yeah
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In good faith there is no reason to take the old TPM quotes seriously, those of which had relevance before Dooku was on our cinema screens, have naught now.
In good faith, Mace Windu has taken stalemates against Grevious in Legends and Talzin in cannon, despite the former loosing to Obi Wan and the latter getting disarmed within seconds on Darthormir (the core of her power) against Palpatine.
So I'll say that Mace looses the first three rounds. For one, he had not mastered Vapaad until the events of Shatterpoint - he still fears the darkness within himself and cannot fully unleash it. So he can't fully utilise Vapaad and he's fighting a more skilled swordsman. I'll say that in good faith, Mace wins the fourth round. But it will not be the type of stomp we see with Yoda by any means. Mace is no on that level and his Vappad only allows him to chanel the dark side power of his adversary back at them. It's a win via attrition more than anything because of Dooku's old age.
I'm not sure what relevance that has when channelling dark-side power, which Dooku has a lot of. He doesn't need to be angry for Vaapad to do its thing.
Nov 18th, 2018 01:32 AM
