Rosters:
BW - Iron Man, Spot, Hellfire King
Leo - Death's Head II, Spiral, Brainiac 8
Battle Location: The Amazon Rainforest. An invisible impenetrable forcefield will surround the forest, extending a mile beneath the surface and approximately 10 miles above the surface. Combatants will start .5 kilometers away from each other, but in a densely wooded area and not in plain sight of one another.
Match Length: Match will end tuesday the 14th at midnight EST.
Astounding. Your really cunning Leo, but ladies and gentlemen please look at what he will be trying to do first:
I will get to the technopathy part in a second, but I just wanted you all to see how futile his attempts would be anyways. He has no defense in place, and he starts off trying to find me. With the hydrogen fusion bombs having just gone off, he is dead. Period. Nothing can change that indisputable fact.
My plan takes precedence from the start of the fight all the way to the finish because of this fact. So as you can see my first post trumps his in terms of letting us know who is in total control of this fight.
Moving on let us deflate some of Leo's claims just to truly appreciate the win:
Indigo and her technopathy: The fact that I made sure my defenses were on tip top shape for these types of attacks, and the fact that you are already dead kinda negate this yea? Also, and this can be considered, but since I have stretched my spots out and am inside one of the spheres covered by them, would not the signal needed for "connection" to my armors be redirected through spots as it would have to pass through them to get to me??
Besides here is someone who is>>>>>>both of us in terms of tech/magic (one of the Eighth Day Examplars given total power from a "god" equal to cyttorak trying to take over Ironmans suit. He eventually does, but its no small feat considering who it is): http://img443.imageshack.us/my.php?...ars1i4ggrc4.jpg
And since Indigo has been jammed by human technology before (Ill get the scan later, dont have it on me) it should not really be a problem.
Ultron Code
Also about the Ultron Code *Specifically that code that ONLY attacks Ultron tech according to YOUR scan*: While I dont have that issue, what you showed was enough to know that I already HAVE a defense against it, mostly because I dont have Ultron hardware on me! I have Shaws body remember? But if you think that I by accident happen to get the artificial heart because it is considered tech (meaning I get two hearts). See the artificial heart, continually adapts itself. At first it needed to be charged, then it adapted to having its own power system. One time ghost phased through it and the next:
So if you had already presented it with Ultron Code, it would have adapted to it *since obviously he is still alive*. Whats that all mean? The Ultron Code for the heart would no longer work! Also, since it seems to be able to adapt when Tony wants something done, it could conceivably give me even more defense against your technopathy!
So, what you are trying to do is introduce Ultron into my system? Or the self destruct codes that he has already evolved against? The first would just have you going against Ultron The second, well it will not work.
Let us also realize that the ONLY reason that Ultron got into the Sentient Armor was because Tony downloaded Jocasta (who had Ultron programming). That would most definitely not be the case here.
Spirals magic
About your tactical teleportation/magical teleportation I can keep a lock on you:
Also, you could not magically teleport my armors away (AFTER the four hydrogen bombs!!) because the armors would be in constant movement and wouldnt you know that kinda hinders Spiral:
I also want to see Spiral amp her own powers. Seriously, show me one time she amped herself up. Or something that truly amazes me, because some psi web isnt going to cut the amp-age you claim to have.
Cage Power dampener
The Cage uses a power dampener that needs to block the signals mentally from the body that controls said power after being scanned with probes. Being that I am covered in the Ironman suit, no such signal would pass through anyways. I would still have Spots powers. That is of course assuming that you can actually shift through every single piece of information that those databases have and happen to get that info, and that info happens to say how to construct said field with specifics on the energy. Your playing a guessing game where you want things to align perfectly.
HFK Spots
As to his spot defense, he has to either take them off his body and stretch them, or create them like I have shown he can do. Being that Tony is infinitely smarter than Spot, he would use the powers to a much greater extent than Spot would. Its logical conclusions one would have to using Spots powers, not just that Spot never thought to use them in that way.
Superior Tech
All this time you have been trying to prove that your tech is superior to mine, and yet every time Ironman goes into the future, or meets aliens his tech is still good enough to kick ass. Your underestimating the armor to a great degree if you think you can hack into my systems in a few seconds. Thats ludicrous and absurdly over exaggerates your "powers".
Also how did you manage to get the Kimoyo card? BP's personality does not equal = the card. Let us also realize that no one has all the information on the armors because Tony does not want anyone having that much information on his armor. I mean why do you think he went through all the trouble with the Armor War arc to destroy all armors?
Also, the only time I can remember that Indigo remotely accessed anything was the superman android that she really did not control since she ended up fighting him when he went wild. Let us not forget she was physically interfacing with the Star labs storage room to get him though. All other appearances I can think of she was in direct contact with a computer system to interface with it. I really cannot remember her taking over a computer system remotely. In fact how many times HAS she taken over a computer remotely?
Pointless? Of course!
Most of this does not really matter anyways since he went KABLOOM from the FOUR HYDROGEN FUSION BOMBS in the first second without any warning of it. You spent way to much time trying to take me over, or nullify me during prep instead of having a true offense or defense for the battle. Time is money, and you spent yours in the wrong way my friend. With you down from the very get go of the battle, my first post pretty much details in no uncertain terms what will happen. None of your strategies can come to fruition.
Again, my superior forces, that will not be taken over by you in your weakened state and that I dont think you can actually remotely take over a computer system with Indigo, will destroy you thanks to the hydrogen fusion bombs having effected you *if you know, they HAVENT destroyed you already *. The tech foam most importantly hampers you from doing anything magical, the negative ionic gun makes you even weaker than normal, and the repulser rays to take you apart. Then you have to contend with the techno-organic virus that I have spread around with my armor(s). But that is only if people for some very very very, did I mention very odd reason believe you will survive my initial attack.
Summary:
My first attack while aggressive and ruthless, also happens to be very very effective! I doubt I NEED the other measures I have come up with, but being that I have them in use I can use them IF need be. But really you will not be surviving a hydrogen fusion bomb x4
Really can we just get the votes in already? Nothing you say can get you out of the pickle your in
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okay, let’s lay to rest some of our readers’ concerns for our heroine.
crazy-ass nukes: let me get this straight, Stark is gonna steal 4 nukes for a battle by creating spots big enough to haul out FOUR 50 megaton bombs? In two minutes.
*coughBULLSH!Tcoughcough*
You DO know how large those things are, right? If you’re talking about strictly the warheads, they are STILL very large (about the size of a car) and in order to do THAT you’d need to disable and dissect whatever it was mounted to.
in two minutes.
IN TEN MINUTES that plan is utterly unbelievable and that’s if you were ONLY trying to get the nukes!!! But you also want to make your centers, and get your armor and gadgets. Coat the nukes with virus. NO ONE – with an ounce of common sense can possibly believe you can do all that in prep. And just because he’s secretary doesn’t mean he gets to use the USA’s nuclear arsenal as his toys! Like the armed forces – and the president – would just let ironman walk in and . . . take 4 nukes?? It’s not like you can show them TONY’s face! And I rather doubt shaw would be as convincing . . . Really, there are so many things wrong with your prep plan they are hard to ennumerate. And given their size, exactly HOW do you plan to drop them simultaneously?
Thank goodness, it’s moot. unfortunately for you 1 second is an ETERNITY to someone capable of scanning/assimilating BILLIONS of pieces of info in that second and quick enough to dodge close-range laser-fire.
And of course for someone who CAN become intangible. Sorry, bw already dealt with and ok’d by goob. Your comparison to spots was faulty – the REASON my intangibility was allowed was because it was strictly a DEFENSIVE maneuver. I won’t defend the issue further – if you have issues talk to goob. Or digi.
so, assuming that it was logical to obtain 4 nukes in 2 OR 10 minutes: mistake #1
assuming I can’t sense/react quick enough to evade the bombs even IF someone actually believes you – mistake #2
assuming I can’t become intangible – mistake #3
and intangibility , incidentally, renders your air-born virus useless against me as well, though in truth, I’m gonna take a WILD stab and suggest that the nature and size of the bomb you set off would . . .
pretty much ANNIHILATE whatever virus you attached to it!
attaching a virus to a nuke for dispersion – mistake #4
so, nukes dismissed, air-born virus dismissed.
onto the skin armor: you know, the armor that I showed in my scan that gets taken out by the emp. yep, the exact armor – actually, the armor in MY scan was the skin armor after it had been UPGRADED 2 or 3 generations! If that emp took out the highest evolution of skin, imagine what it would do to the prototype skin and ALL the armors that are below THAT version . . . hell, even more RECENT models have been taken out by emp:
so, choosing the skin armor – mistake #5 – a big one as the SKIN has a vulnerability everyone can see and which I take DIRECT advantage of.
to your point about what I would be doing first –
“Using her ridiculously high level senses . . .”
m’man – I walk into the match with ALL my senses scanning the entire battlefield searching for you!
Am I looking for your armor? Sure. Does that mean I wouldn’t detect the spot energy, or the build-up of the nukes? The hell kinda reasoning is that . . .? She went in SCANNING the battlefield! You think she would just . . . skip over the spots and nukes? Someone this smart and capable of using THIS type of tech would just . . . miss what you’re trying to do:
spot-centers: Any proof – at all – to suggest you’re capable of creating anything REMOTELY CLOSE to these ‘spheres’ ? I mean, you can’t BEND the spots to make them round, so, regardless of how much you stretch them you would STILL need a HUGE number of spots to make a complete sphere the size of what you need. Hell, I SERIOUSLY doubt you would have enough spots to create a SINGLE ‘sphere’ that would be large enough to do what you want. Again, these bombs of yours aren’t friggin grenades. Yet you’re going to hold all 4 and drop all of them simultaneously? How? ALL in 10 minutes?? It really defies logic.
but again, it’s moot – I react and turn intangible. No harm done regardless of HOW you feel about the bombs. the spheres are harmless to me anyway as they are just hideouts for you.
the extra armors/drones: are under my control, are taken out by the same emp that takes out shaw’s armor, or I just teleport them away. Between pre-cog, intangibility, computer reactions tactical teleporting, and matter manip, they would never threaten OR touch me even if I allowed them to stick around. as far as their movement hindering me: there are actually SEVERAL of her spells that require both time and a still target. I think any reasonable person would conclude that nullifying the power of ALL THE AVENGERS is a rather LARGE spell that may require some added time and concentration to cast . . .
Teleportation? Not so large. The BULK of her spells are not hindered IN THE LEAST by movement. I could scan-blitz proof, but these are just a couple to back it up:
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post 3
I await convincing proof that the armors can withstand b8's technopathic assault. Showing one of the avatars SUCCEEDING in controlling the armor isn’t of much help . . . And they certainly weren’t equal to cyttorak in power. Regardless – considering such notable “super” villains as the mad thinker and . . . the GLITCH have succeeded in taking control of various armors, call me crazy, but I’m thinking technopathy is not a bad route.
your virus:
(1) it needed physical contact to be administered to mandarin, so I’m not sure how you assume you can ‘project it’, like a blast or something. You gonna whip THAT up in your eternal 10 minutes as well? Besides, you’ll never touch me this whole battle.
(2) all of dhii’s organic components are HEAVILY protected (see scan in opening post). The PERFECTION virus that you showed affecting him in that scan was created 100s of years in the future. Your antiquated virus would be meaningless, given the level of tech dhii is equipped with.
(3) while studying, kali would have, with ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY, come across knowledge of that virus which cybermancer helped him create. Between b8's technopathic abilities and spiral’s knowledge of both tech AND organic properties, there can be no doubt whatsoever that kali would have already been prepared (through spells or tech) to deal with this particular virus.
Any SINGLE of the above reasons would be enough for any rational person to say your virus’s odds of working – even if you DID somehow succeed in touching me to infect me before your armor was shut down and shaw was entombed – are next to nil.
last few points:
not sure where you get that idea from . . . I showed the scans really just to show that his armor CAN be taken over and hacked. Ultron’s tech has allowed him to do it several times. Mad thinker has done it and a computer hacker named glitch has done so! His defenses couldn’t even fend off a fuggin TAPEWORM virus (which was AGAIN the 3rd gen skin armor!)! Yet you think he will be able to TOTALLY resist kali’s technopathy? There’s a reason he gave up the skin – it wasn’t very effective.
if the armor actually DID block the mental signals as you say, you wouldn’t be able to CREATE the spots outside your armor! Cool!
assuming for a moment the armor DOES let your thoughts through though, the cage field would work brilliantly.
my bad. I meant to say I have all the INFO that was contained in the card.
the info I WOULD have been able to find would have been enormous – enough for BP to know to use the code AND a negator pack against you. He learned your weaknesses – I would have as well. And you are using an OLDER ARMOR!
she PROGRAMMED it to go wild. She deactivated it after it performed it’s requested feat – killing donna. And she controlled/reprogrammed it WHILE it was held in stasis, deactivated AND locked behind STAR LABS own defense systems. My first scan also shows her overriding STAR’S SYSTEMS remotely – as she remotely reprogrammed the droid. Both of those are uber feats if you know anything at all about STAR LAB tech or kryptonian tech. AND SHE WAS OPERATING AT ONLY 8% POWER! Indigo rocks!
heh. Sweet. But you mean after I use a power reversal spell, they further weaken YOU, right?
and that’s that. Nukes are an utterly illogical tactic (cripes, it’s entirely IMPOSSIBLE given the 10 minute time-frame and considering everything else he intends to try and do . . .) Even if you ignore logic and believe he CAN use them (picture how that would actually look? How would he even drop all 4 at the same time when they are so large – inside a ‘spot center’ that he cannot even prove he could make!) my array of senses were operating at full power the instant I stepped into the battle! My computer reaction speed stretches a second into forever and gives me AMPLE time to turn intangible, while the explosion wipes out his antiquated virus. There is no way he could have equipped his armor to PROJECT the virus in the time granted for prep. Once the smoke clears I emp the whole lot of them. Really, it IS that simple.
BE CLEAR – ONCE I SENSE THE ARMORS THEY ARE FINSHED.
Take your pick how: teleportation, emp or technopathy, matter manip. And yes, matter manip CAN be used on a moving target:
I have shown repeated evidence emps can take out his armors, and evidence that shows his systems are NOT as ‘invincible’ as he wants you to believe.
i follow up with indy’s electrical attack (if necessary) to be sure and I don’t even NEED the ultron stuff. If shaw stays in the silly spot center, I use the forcefield to shut off his powers then hit him with another emp. Simple as. Or I take control of the armor and shut down life support, or blast it until shaw is hamburger inside, or use sonics . . . Anyway you cut it, the armor(s) are rendered useless and shaw is entombed in SKIN and at my mercy.
ALL HIS ATTACKS ACCOUNTED FOR AND DISMISSED. All of mine, working just fine.
Uh-oh, somebody has to get back to the drawing board . . .
Well man you just
A) Insulted some people (Judges do you LIKE being insulted? Didnt think so!)
B) Did not realize I just was gonna steal em.
C) Told us you cannot count to zero!
Oh dammit you are right. I mean with Indigo/B8 being able to react at almost Flash like speed this should be a piece of cake for you. I will even do you the favor and show all these good people some of her reaction speeds (and all are scans are of B8 the "supped" up version):
I wonder.....maybe I will try again later and see if I can show them those super reaction speeds and senses of yours, k pumpkin?
Well its a good thing I did talk to them then isnt it? Basically this scan: http://img464.imageshack.us/my.php?...ilityvh4nx7.jpg
Is NOT intangibility. Its a complicated teleportation spell that takes you to another dimension. Guess what Goober says about that?
"Well in that case...Your argument just got a whole lot easier. If leo actually transports himself away (even if it is only for a split second) that's leaving the battlefield which is NOT allowed. So just point out that the technique is actually teleportation rather than intangibility and your case on the matter is pretty much made"
Guess it sucks to give me advice, yes?
Interesting. "Mistake" 1 was brilliant, "mistake" 2 was shown to be true, and "mistake" 3 came back to haunt you. 4 was a calculated risk, as I can still spread it through the armors.
SAYWHAA? So many mistakes in that paragraph. First of all the scan you showed was the TIN MAN armor (mark 2?) *as in NOT the skin armor which was before*. I would be wearing the TIN MAN armor (mark 5?) with the skin liquid as an extra. So please try not to make faulty assumptions again.
Your over exaggeration of Indigo's reactions will not help you. Spiral's consciousness will not help with that, and even if they did she can be hit (rouge being a prime example). Or maybe you meant DHII? Ive already shown scans of thing being able to react to him. Damn man I really dont know where you think you can react with flash like reflexes.
uhsah? Its covering me and my "men". Think of a cube of spots, with extra spots covering the spaces left by the main six. I mean Tony is an engineer I am sure he can figure something that simple out. The bombs are outside the sphere, and have spots appear under them. They drop and open up where they need to be.
Man too bad that got the ax. Not that you could react fast enough anyways. It would be assuming you could move your six hands fast enough to preform the magic and then teleport away before the blast hit you, and stay in the other dimension while it was happening. Either way? ITS ALL BANNED.
1) It can be projected through an airborn passage. Ironman has done the same with reverse engineered nanobots
2) Yea, care to show that? Your amping your characters body a wee too much me thinks.
3) So your gonna just tell me, without proof that just because she is looking for random data, she will come across this specific little detail? Thats absurd to assume she can know ALL things.
Do you read your own scans? http://img113.imageshack.us/my.php?image=102sd.jpg
It would only effect the artificial heart, if I even have it (does that count as tech for my character?) Even if it did, I have already shown it would have adapted.
Mad Tinker used ultrasonics WAAAAAAAY back in the day if I am not mistaken, and Ironman soon fixed that problem. And again you show your lack of knowledge on the subject matter as that was not the SKIN armor, nor am I USING the SKIN armor. I am actually using SKIN + my regular armor.
Ha. Thats funny. So after you got blown to bits by the hydrogen bombs you think you still have enough hands to preform a spell? Since you know it takes Spiral using her hands to do the magic. And this is even IF you survive, which really you should have no reason to.
Gee I feel a bit like the guys at Mythbusters, since I just debunked both these lies
Too true my friend, too true
Shaw? He needs some loving I guess. First he can absorb any blasts/heat as its all kinetic energy. As is sonics, since it is nothing more than vibrations.
4 Hydrogen Fusion Bombs: Check
His reactions NOT at flash like levels?: Check
Having blown his "intangibility" trick out of the water: Check
Him dying in the first second of battle? Priceless
Your battle plans take too much time. Mine does not have that problem.
Ok folks sorry for the confusion but what Blair said about leo's teleporting is true. For some reason, I've been under the impression that leo was just shunting his mass off to another dimension in a manner similar to Martian Manhunter, I didn't realize that he was actually teleporting away. My allowing leo to do that would be right along the same lines as my allowing Blair to go to the Spot Dimension to avoid attacks, and I've always said that that kind of thing isn't allowed. So my apologies to leo for OKing it and then flip flopping, but I guess I just never paid close enough attention to the scan to notice.
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Last edited by darthgoober on Aug 13th, 2007 at 06:38 PM
Thanks to goober for clearing that up. Since it is an overturned ruling mid-match, it shouldn't really count against the participants in their earlier posts. Everything involving this should probably just be stricken from the record in terms of judging, and I'm sure both strategies will change somewhat as the result. Everything else, obviously, still holds true for both posters' strategies however.
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Ladies and gentlemen, mr. blair wind!
he’ll be performing until Wednesday evening, so be sure to catch his final show!
if this were the kmc’s version of last comic standing, bw MIGHT have a chance. Still, with guys like smurf and val . . .
nah, he’d STILL lose.
Anywho, back to debunking his ridiculous strategy.
The idea that he actually BELIEVES he can:
--gather all his gizmos – skin armor, other armors, virus
--jack 4 nukes, the size of small buildings, from a nuclear base
--coat them with a virus
--create a way to project a virus that must be transmitted by touch
--create giant spot centers
--and reprogram all the nukes
inside of 10 MINUTES?
well, seriously, there is nothing else that I should have to say. The whole idea is utterly, in every possible way, ridiculous and anyone with an ounce of common sense can see that clear as day.
But, for the hell of it, let’s go with it for a bit:
sweet! Except that a self-destruct on a nuke is a FAIL SAFE. It causes the bomb to explode WITHOUT detonating the nuke! oops . . .
As it happens, tony HAS been faced with the threat of stopping nukes in the past and was UNABLE to simply use the AI in his armor to reprogram them. He needed to muck with their GUIDANCE systems to stop them because he was unable to simply alter their programming.
and he could barely do THAT – and he DESIGNED the guidance systems! Nukes aren’t exactly pipe bombs, even for tony!! There are also redundancy codes that would be needed to activate a timer on a warhead – IF A WARHEAD EVEN HAS A TIMER! This isn’t a fuggin alarm clock!! Somehow, he sees himself as being able to simply . . . pop the hood on one of those things and set it like an alarm clock or something. even as secretary, there is no way he would know the codes for each nuke, and while his armor may be able to crack them, given time – he HAS no time in which to crack all the codes!
The plan is so ludicrous that it beggars description.
Something else that would prevent him from even WANTING to get the nukes:
bw showed scans of SINGLE spots capable of housing one missile at a time. Because there is NO WAY he could use enough SMALL spots to make the centers . . .
In order to build his spot centers, he would need to simultaneously open FOURTEEN spots, even LARGER than the largest SINGLE spots he has ever been shown to make!!
is he kidding? He can’t POSSIBLY think anyone would buy that. That’s tantamount to saying because indy controlled 1 superman android, she could easily control 15 of the most advanced versions of ultron – simultaneously! Honestly, can any claim be more baseless??
In order to house all the nukes, the center would need to be ENORMOUS! Maybe 4, 5 stories high? bigger?? On top of that, he needs: 4 MORE huge spots INSIDE the spot center, and 4 more huge spots OUTSIDE the center to drop the nukes through and have them reappear. That is 14 – FOURTEEN!! – enormous spots, all open at the same time, and EACH spot is larger than the LARGEST spot he has ever been shown to make. Beyond even THAT, to make sure the nuke’s energy doesn’t simply go through the spots in his center and hit HIM, he needs to open OTHER spots to shunt the energy away from him. And his other armors. Seriously – what the hell??? Show me the spot realm absorbing an energy attack. It CERTAINLY didn’t absorb MODOK’S attack as I showed in my first post. By rights, the energy of the nuke should simply pass through his spots and FIND him! If it doesn’t, he will have needed to open OTHER spots before-hand.
Do you know how many spots you are dealing with, and how large and how precisely you are attempting to open and control them?
be clear here folks: spot himself has never come CLOSE to doing anything within a LIGHTYEAR of what you’re trying!!
Now, add to all that insanity the fact that I’ve ALREADY shown proof that he runs out of spot energy – spidey let him use up his spots and simply punched him in the mouth. What in all of hell would convince ANYONE that he has enough power to create anything CLOSE to what he is trying to do??
THERE IS NO EVIDENCE AT ALL TO SUGGEST HE WOULD BE CAPABLE OF IT. THE ONLY EVIDENCE THAT EXISTS SUGGESTS EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE!
now I know bw is pretty good at muddying the waters, and his jokes are cute, and his bravado is pretty convincing to the simple-minded, but seriously – THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME EVIDENCE TO BACK HIS CLAIM! He has never made TWO large spots at the same time, let alone 14!! And he STILL needs more because he is ALSO trying to create 2 OTHER spot centers and shunt the nukes energy AWAY from himself AND his other armors!!
Holy crap . . .
he can try and be as witty as he likes – I have SHOWN YOU PROOF that there is a limit to his spots. For his part, he has shown exactly ZERO evidence to suggest he can create anything remotely CLOSE to the size of these centers, nor has he shown anything resembling evidence to support the idea he could CONTROL so many spots so precisely. Nor WILL he show you proof. He’ll simply make it seem like it’s ridiculous that he CAN’T do it. And he says I’M insulting judges. Least I don’t believe anyone would actually FALL for that load of utterly BASELESS crap.
and of course, if he can’t have a safe-haven to hide in, he would never use the bombs that he could never retrieve and reprogram in time ANYWAY.
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another thing – he never DID address the point about just how he would drop all 4 of his fantasy-bombs SIMULTANEOUSLY! The damn things are HUGE!! I said 18-wheeler, but (judging by my earlier scan) likely larger – much larger – than that even.
If you stop and remind yourself exactly what it is he is trying to do – imagine the whole process in your head – the whole thing is . . . ludicrous. Really. And he thinks he can do it all in under 10 minutes. I’ve seen a lot of these tournaments, and some . . . whacked-out plans, but this plan defies comprehension.
He even leads us to believe that somehow his ARMOR is directing the spots, opening them. But of course it’s tony’s mind that directs them (notice how he seems to think his mental powers to projects the spots WILL reach beyond his armor after all . . . . guess that means the CAGE forcefield will work just fine then. ). That means tony would be doing the count down, and counting down to the last second before opening a spot would be . . . pretty fuggin risky, because he would still have to project all FOUR spots to their locations – and again, opening spots like that, of that size, simultaneously – is a feat unlike ANYTHING spot has ever accomplished before.
Damn, bra – make with some evidence or hit the drawing board again already . . .
Of course, in his defense he NEEDS the nukes, because without them, he knows he is utterly screwed. So, let’s say someone out there actually (heheh) BELIEVES a single thing he has said, and he actually has the nukes, and everything goes according to his plan.
Good thing it’s such a bad plan that there are MULTIPLE ways to dismiss it!
now, about my ability to assimilate/process/react quickly enough. Here is indy – operating at a measly 33% of her power – locating a single cyborg after first scanning the ENTIRE USA!! She then teleports directly ON TOP OF him in 3 seconds.
there are other examples of her scanning and assimilating large databases, but scanning the entire USA in a second (at 33% power!) is pretty damn impressive. now in this match, she goes IN to the match actively scanning, at FULL power, and her senses are enhanced by both dhii (with fully functioning computer brain!) and spiral who also has PRE-COG. Oh, and the battlefield is . . . somewhat smaller than the continental USA! I’ve already repeatedly shown dhii dl’ing the sum-total of reed richards computer system in SECONDS, but here again are his reactions (actually they are dhi – but dhii assimilated him and has all his abilities AND more, including a far more advanced body and mind!) to close-range LASER FIRE!
as bw was going through trying to discredit her ability to react at computer-level speeds, I was waiting for him to show me a scan of rhino punching spiderman, or cap boomerang hitting flash!
unfortunately for you, my friend, she CAN react quickly enough to understand what is happening and take steps to avoid it.
But, but, but . . . she can’t turn intangible! Whatever shall our heroine do?? Well . . . she’ll just teleport.
where, you ask? Why, into the only safe-haven in the battlefield of course – she ports into a spot center – the biggest one there is – and unloads her emp.
Shaw in the center is entombed in the armor and at my mercy. Again. (Seems to always come back to that, don’t it? And when he IS trapped, he’s sssooooo screwed. I doubt he could even MOVE in something that is near adamantium hardness . . . )
**Oh, and you’re right – I confused the armor from my scan with the skin armor – HOWEVER, why did tony abandon the skin in the first place? BECAUSE IT WAS COMPROMISED BY ULTRON. The ultron code would CERTAINLY impact the outer layer of SKIN that you coated yourself with and make your life inside the skin a living hell! **
If you don’t like that option – I could always just unload the emp BEFORE the fantasy-bombs go off at all. They ARE run by computers and electronic systems. An emp would stop them instantly from exploding.
If you don’t like that, and are into a little something special, I could always just unleash the CAGE forcefield and wipe out his spot shields.
BOOM! We BOTH die.
still, a lot easier to simply teleport, bypass your shields and surprise the holy hell out of you with a crippling emp. Or technopathy – if mad thinker and friggin glitch – GLITCH!! – can do it, I should be able to cause you no END of trouble. Or I could use the dreaded tapeworm virus! regardless, battle over.
you see, he NEEDS the nukes to work. Me? I don’t care whether you believe they work or not, though it is truly incomprehensible how someone can look at that plan and buy that he can do all of what he’s saying in 10 fracking minutes. The scans I’ve showed DO provide proof kali can react quick enough (though it is pretty damn impossible to believe (like the rest of what he’s trying to sell) that he would willingly cut it to the last second . . .) to figure out what is happening and simply port away to the only safe place around. The inside of his ridiculous ‘sphere’.
Of course, he has not nor WILL he provide any evidence at all to support the idea he can use spots to create anything CLOSE to the size of these centers he wants to make. And without them, he either doesn’t USE the bombs, or dies with me.
he has provided exactly ONE way to defeat me. The bombs. I have provided MULTIPLE ways to not only bypass his singular hope, but of taking him out once I DO get my grubby hands on his hide-and-seek playing, chicken-sh!t-yellow arse. that’s WHY he needs to hide in his silly centers. Because once he’s out, he is finished via emp, cage forcefield, technopathy, power reversal or virus. No matter how you cut it, it ends quickly once he comes out of hiding. And everyone knows it.
On the plus side though, at least his posts are funny . . .
And there we have it folks. The last minute long winded posts of a desperate man.
Skipping your announcer intro, it really boggles the mind how you cant believe a teleporter could do many things in a short amount of time. Also, you have a nasty habit of insulting people "who have no common sense".
umm...I am going to think you know perfectly well self destruct as in the warhead. Let us also realize the scan you showed was from the early 90's.
A) His armor has upgraded substantially. Showing us a MUCH older model will do you no good, not against Ironman.
B) As Secretary of Defense he would already have half the codes needed. The armor can remote access the rest of it.
The armor would crack it. What would take a conventional computer 6 years to run through a code program, it takes him about 6 minutes. And thats an armor from the 90s! With his armor upgrades, being that he already knows half the codes, and that he is the super genius he is there is no room for doubt that he could do it in the alloted time period. Here we have him making some missiles his bitch after what seems like just a minute or two and all he would have to say is activate instead of abort: http://img292.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bomb1jw1.jpg http://img175.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bombs2jq6.jpg
Do you read? The spot command centers would be around me and my men only! Why would I want those nukes inside a spot with me?? They would be outside, and would be spotted away with ONE spot under each one to the desired area. Hell EVEN IF I DIDNT SPOT THEM AWAY being that they are four of them the blast would STILL incinerate you while I am safe in my spot sphere. These are small spheres people, just to fit me and my men individually.
Let us also realize that he exaggerates a GREAT deal when it comes to the size of these warheads. The biggest one ever created that we know of (public) is about the size of a "large" car.
So now that we realize we dont need fourteen super huge spots, lemme say WHA? The spots that I create my spot sphere from, they would shunt any energy out (since it doesnt go through one side to the other of course). The spots absorb energy, and it would shunt the energy into the spot dimension. Simple as my friend. Or if you want to get more complicated, it would redirect it to another spot on the outside part of the sphere. I wouldnt need to create more spots. Your trying to over exaggerate the Spots, or simply are not understanding simple dimensions.
Uh, the fact that he THREW those spots from his body and had close to 100 just lying around in his personal playground? These spots would be CREATED. Its not spot energy, its the fact that there is an infinite number of spots in the spot dimension that he can CREATE from. Throwing them from his body, like the idiot spot is, depletes him of the spots on his BODY. Two very different things my friend.
uh? The armor would have a countdown, and all he would have to do is open and close a spot. The spots would lead to other spots in the air, just having the bombs go off. I never once said the armor controls the spots. BUT if you want to complain, I wont even move them! Hell Ill just let the damn bombs go off around me *remember I am INSIDE the spot sphere and they are NOT*. I would be fully protected and you would STILL get incinerated.
uh 3 seconds? One second and you die I have already shown the SUPER version of Indigo *B8* being taken by surprise a bunch of times. You wont be able to do ANYTHING before you get incinerated.
The spot centers that ONLY surround me? That are only big enough for one person? You'd die by teleporting inside of me basically which I am FAIRLY certain is an illegal move. So sorry, but your intangible and teleporting trick are not going to help you much. So lets see what BS move your going to try now? No more ways to move? Didnt think so. Besides you teleport to me, and get touched by my virus. Man youd be dead.
You must not know how strong Shaw is. You should see his Magneto fight. It doesnt hold much relevance here since it will not get this far, but IF he had to, I do think he could get out of the armor. Then you have to touch me. Virus anyone?
You should stop reading bios it was compromised because Ultron was inside the Sentient armor, and thats the only reason in fact. Besides he was not even able to control Ironmans SKIN, it was just a complicated arc where he took SKIN and put it on a cult of people. So no, none of the code would work.
The EMP would have to reach the bombs, fry the systems, all before they go BOOM in the very first second. And before she was jammed! ha.
Yet again your wasting time with trying to say my spots are huge. They really are not. Its just a small sphere for ME and my MEN. Really now man its NOT that complicated.
SUMMARY:
He goes BOOM. Simple as my friend. Why over complicate matters? He has no way of winning this. My bombs are all I NEED to win this fight. Anything else is just overkill. It seems he keeps trying various ways to overcome my bombs, and each time failing. Maybe it just shows he KNOWS he cant survive the bombs, and is trying like a desperate man to keep his head above water. He IS scared of them you can tell because well for all his various attempts at discrediting them, he has shown us that he cannot avoid them. He first tried intangibility and failed, a teleporting trick that does not make sense (in ONE second, AND in space that is already occupied?!), or an EMP again in ONE second?! NOTHING he has down has proven he can beat the bombs going off. Then you take into account my superior numbers, and techno-organic virus?! I have the superior plan hands down. Vote HFK for the win! http://img67.imageshack.us/my.php?i...firekingle2.png
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Aug 8th, 2007 04:38 PM
with thanks to the awesome Cresh
The second, well it will not work. 
*. The tech foam most importantly hampers you from doing anything magical, the negative ionic gun makes you even weaker than normal, and the repulser rays to take you apart. Then you have to contend with the techno-organic virus that I have spread around with my armor(s). But that is only if people for some very very very, did I mention very odd reason believe you will survive my initial attack.
hell, even more RECENT models have been taken out by emp:
Shaw? He needs some loving I guess. First he can absorb any blasts/heat as its all kinetic energy. As is sonics, since it is nothing more than vibrations.
