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Re: love
it's false love and false happiness.the trust we have is minute and invisible.we sign treaties we know we will break.lies are the foundation and destruction of life.were blinded but being blind allows us to be peaceful and happy.
How do we nuture the true love that binds us all or is it just impossible to do so? Are we doomed to live in this world where jealousy and misunderstanding continuously dresses itself as a false love?
Some philosophers have argued that the death and destruction of war are necessary components to a meaningful life or even the ability to love.
Life as mere existence isn' t very important. Instead, what is important is a life worth living. It is in people' s interests to preserve their life, but also aspects of life which give it significance: land, family, ideas, value, religion, etc.
Meaningful existence for human beings entails a willingness to preserve those aspects of human life which give it meaning. People are willing to fight, die and kill for their values.
A similar argument is made in defense of the idea that the willingness to engage in violence, even to the point of war, is part of our capacity as humans to love one another.
The ability to love someone requires that we be willing to defend that person. If we allow that person to be harmed or killed, then it would be difficult for an observer to conclude that we really do love. Defending another person whom we love may entail doing that which is otherwise abhorrent to us. One example might be to die for that person - to accept their fate as our own, in other words. Another might be to kill for that person - to act in their defense by killing a person who threatens to kill them.
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That's because real love is UNCONDITIONAL, it asks nothing of anyone else...It does not push, nor try to change the other, nor ridicule, hold grudges. But only places it's self second for the better of the other.
Hey Storm, who is that observer you are talking about? You see that observer is actually you. The thinker and his thought are not different but yet we try to separate them. Do not draw a line of demarcation between the observer with the observed. They are actually the same. What you think is you. If you separate them, that it will only bring conflict and therefore hinders us from finding the meaning of love.
Hey debbiejo, have you experienced true love ?Or is that explanation above a preconcieved notion about love? Because if you have ideas about love, surely it will deprieve you of experiencing true love. You say that love does not push, nor try to change the other, nor ridicule, hold grudges. Are you saying that if something conforms to that pattern, it is love? Isn't that so rigid?
Have I experienced true love in that manor for myself?....Not really, but have on occasions to some degree...Usually love, I find is more "This person is just not right, and how can I change them."..I accept that many cannot truly give of themselves to do so for another..Then it turns into nagging the person to death...I believe a person should be accepted and free to be who she/he is...If both do that then I believe it can only grow...Love should not be conditional...Like if you change, I'll accept and love your so much more...If you do this, then you will please me and then I'll know that you love me....To me that is not Unconditional love.....Love is also letting a person go if they're not happy....It has no restraints......There are many types of love, just most have conditions to it....Most of us have experience that one...But there are others who have found a real treasure...
And I also agree with Storm...Love is also defending a person...whether from harm or harsh words....When it comes to harsh words I'm usually defending myself....Because I care about myself and have to protect myself even if no one else does feel the need to help me out....But hey, it's made me a much stronger person...And NO..I don't judge for that....People are who they are, some just can't see what it does to other person...
Last edited by debbiejo on Oct 9th, 2005 at 08:17 AM
Debbiejo, I agree when you say that you have to allow that person to leave if he/she wants to because that person doesn't belong to you. If you do, it shows that your love would have been built on jealousy. However, when you say that you love yourself and have to protect yourself, it is not out of love you are doing it. It is an act of protecting yourself. You see, the mind has deviced many methods to prevent one from seeing what is and hence experiencing love. Do not protect yourself from harsh words. Instead receive it and question yourself, am I truly what he/she says? Remember, only in the house of negativity can there be a positive outcome.
no man, what are you thinking? there is no such thing as love... love is just a made up thing by the media to help sell valentines day cards, and make people spend money on children that shouldnt exist.
Have you taken physiology?...Cause I have...LOL....
The harsh words I'm talking about are Slams that one does to another to build the other up...Not true words of wisdom...They are generally words of jealousy or come from a insecure place.....Those words of wisdom I always give thought to...Also, I do consider what people tell me...have to you know...from the one scripture that says "Reproof comes from a friend." And sometimes a person can't see the forest for the trees, so I give that thought also...yep.
Last edited by debbiejo on Oct 10th, 2005 at 09:38 AM
Don' t make the assumption that the observer I was talking about would be me.
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I am not driven by people’ s praise and I am not slowed down by people’ s criticism.
You only live once. But if you live it right, once is enough. Wrong. We only die once, we live every day!
Make poverty history.
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