Good one. Is bloodlust on? I'd give this one to Shiva. She is the better fighter of the two. But, Matt might still have advantage in the dark but not one big enough to defeat Shiva.
Shiva also has those senses, she is known in the DCU as the most deadly woman alive. She gained the title by defeating the past title holder in pitch blackness.
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No they don't , DD has no means to mask his presence [chi, breathing, intentions, emotion, effect of his movement on air pressure etc] from Shiva.
Shiva Earths premier stealth fighter can and will, mask her presence Chi, heart beat, pheromones, breath, pulse, vibrations from impact with the ground
Batman & Shiva Batman's mentor continually bypass the defenses of Luthor, in the Oval Office no less, Superman, Supergirl, Mystics like Madam Xanadu, demons like Neron, Hades alien Warlords like Brainiac Mongul & Darkseid & The Gods of New Genesis, Telepaths like Aquaman & Manhunter
DD WILL register a vague presence, much in the same way Batman registers a vague presence alone with Mr Terrific in a cemetery on a black night. [Mr Terrific uses advanced Technology]
Shiva will know what DD is feeling, what he's up to, what he's gonna do next and more important how to kill him dead.
Shiva is Bullseye + Mr X [who has telepathy] + Shang Chi + Samurai Jacks cunning + [Shiva has one punch that is equal to a small nuclear device.]
Please. Daredevil's senses are not like some trick superior martial artists use. His senses are so advanced he can feel the slightest dip in atmospheric pressre, he can pick out a person by their particualr heartbeat in a city of millions. All of those things you have Shiva doing has also been done by Elektra who Daredevil has no problem predicting. Though she's able to conceal her intentions and strikes from normal opponents Daredevil still picks up on her.
And you must know much about Daredevil. He can also accomplish the things you claim he can't. He can exert a limited amount of control on his internal enviroment to slow down his pulse etc, control his chi plus knows a few handy little ninja tricks. He's not up their with Shiva but he's not to be taken lightly in terms of raw skills.
To sum up, he can sense and thus predict her movements. He can conceal himself enough to prevent her from reading him too much. Daredevil wins
She lost to BG twice. Shiva has never been able to defeat Batman, and she's had three chances.
And recently Prometheuse wrecked her. She won't be able to mast her heart beat or muscles or movements through the wind that DD will be able to hear. Plus DD has even done so without his senses by just tracking them with his Radar. He isn't just limited.
DD his stats in speed and strength are better.
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lets establish the facts Manhunter has 11 forns of eyesight plus telepathy his Martian hearing and smell is in Krypto's class [Superman's bloodhound] Superman himself can listen in on a whispered conversation over a bad phone line halfway accross the world, he can read small print from a ciggarrette pack on Earth from deep space, and so on Same applies for his Blood Relative Supergirl.
None of these senses stand up to the mystic arts mastered by Shiva & Batman . Manhunter who has telepathy in the Xavier, Gamesmaster, Manchester Black Oracle [shiar] class is not so easily brainsided.
Prometheus utilizing tech from Manhunters homeworld [Souped up Cerebro ] conveniently abandoned onPlanet Earth by the White Martians [The white martians were an advanced race of psychics]
Prometheus set the technology to download the fighting prowess, skill, experience, moves etc from the cerebral cortex of the 30 GREATEST martial artists on Earth by remote access, kinda like me sitting here and telling my computer to download everything usefull in yr head into mine. Copy.
whaddayaknow the Martian Tech did just that
Shiva couldn't fight herself + batgirl + richard dragon + bronze tiger +eccetera all in one go.