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Hal and WW vs Superman

impenetrable city-sized dome. ww starts behind hal's shields. she has her usual weapons.

can the team take him down?


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It depends on WW's speed:
perception, movement to defend, and counter attack speed.

If those speeds are not enough then the team loses. Otherwise, the team wins.


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Either solos tbh.


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Either solos tbh.


Hal is not beating Superman.


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Hal is not beating Superman.


If Zod is a 7, where would you rank Superman (Superman said they are equals, but im interested in your answer)?


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I actually would say the team has some chances
But some posts like this
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Either solos tbh.

Is definitely far easier to argue against lol

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Post crisis, they'd have 50/50 chance, currently though? Superman easily tbh, he's on a different level altogether.
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Either solos tbh.

This idiot lol.
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If Zod is a 7, where would you rank Superman (Superman said they are equals, but im interested in your answer)?

In the same series, Superman casually overpowered Hal and had to hold back not to seriously injure him.


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If Zod is a 7, where would you rank Superman (Superman said they are equals, but im interested in your answer)?


Do you think Zod should be credited with all of Superman's high-end feats in a forum setting?

That aside, character ranking doesn't determine who wins - what matters is how a character wins. Superman is significantly faster than Hal and strong enough to shatter his constructs in a single blow. He can knock him out in short order.


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Hal has had so many absurd, bonkers feats in the last decade that if he was in marvel, you'd be hearing he was above Thanos lol. The fact that Superman is still a level above him is simply absurd lol.


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Superman can one shot KO Hal if he wanted to. Let’s not kid ourselves. Superman pulls his punches. He isn’t doing that here. He then 5 to 10 pieces Wonder Woman who would move like a snail after being blasted with freeze breath. I don’t see this as a contest because his opponents need a few more members to make this a fight.


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Do you think Zod should be credited with all of Superman's high-end feats in a forum setting?

That aside, character ranking doesn't determine who wins - what matters is how a character wins. Superman is significantly faster than Hal and strong enough to shatter his constructs in a single blow. He can knock him out in short order.


Answer my question.


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impenetrable city-sized dome. ww starts behind hal's shields. she has her usual weapons.

can the team take him down?


It would be interesting how this works - WW has no real long range weaponry. Not saying who wins in the fight, am just wondering how the mechanics of it all.

MAtch starts, WW does....nothing, I guess, because if she tries to do anything (lasso, punch, tiara, sword, whatever) then she won't have the shield protecting her.


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Answer my question.


I will if you agree to answer mine immediately afterwards.


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I will if you agree to answer mine immediately afterwards.


I agree to answer afterwards.


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It would be interesting how this works - WW has no real long range weaponry. Not saying who wins in the fight, am just wondering how the mechanics of it all.

MAtch starts, WW does....nothing, I guess, because if she tries to do anything (lasso, punch, tiara, sword, whatever) then she won't have the shield protecting her.


that's how she always fights him? and hal would still be there, though hal could easily outfit her in armor if he wanted to be creative.... how about creating kryptonite armor for her...?


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that's how she always fights him? and hal would still be there, though hal could easily outfit her in armor if he wanted to be creative.... how about creating kryptonite armor for her...?


Yeah I just assumed it was a bubble type shield?


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If Zod is a 7, where would you rank Superman (Superman said they are equals, but im interested in your answer)?


In a forum setting, I'd rank Superman around 10 or so, depending on the type of scale being used. He's more versatile with his powerset - especially his speed—and often pushes himself further through sheer willpower when the plot calls for it. That said, Zod has the potential to rival Superman, given more experience with his powers and extended exposure to yellow sunlight and a greater will to push himself to unimaginable limits like Clark sometimes does.

Now answer this

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Do you think Zod should be credited with all of Superman's high-end feats in a forum setting?


Either answer is acceptable imo.


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Yeah I just assumed it was a bubble type shield?


that's how it starts just to prevent the whole blitz debate. after that they have a bit of time to plan so can do whatever they want from there. i think the team likely takes it. hal's feats and diana's magic is a tough combo.


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@H1...

I think Zod could replicate Superman's fts, yes. They are basically the same characters except Zod doesn't hold back. Superman even thinks they are equals. Zod will never be in Superman position of fts because he's no hero but Zod can beat Superman and Superman can beat Zod. I can't give Zod Superman fts though because thats not how this works. So do you think Superman and Zod are close or no? I'm asking for a reason.


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@H1...

I think Zod could replicate Superman's fts, yes. They are basically the same characters except Zod doesn't hold back. Superman even thinks they are equals. Zod will never be in Superman position of fts because he's no hero but Zod can beat Superman and Superman can beat Zod. I can't give Zod Superman fts though because thats not how this works. So do you think Superman and Zod are close or no? I'm asking for a reason.

laughing out loud


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