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DarkSaint85
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That's like Iron Man.

Once you cut him out of the suit, Stark is unable to perform at the same level as Iron Man.


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I think i actually understand what carver is saying.

Its like if selene from underworld is at 100% after drinking blood. Shes super strong, fast, etc... If she gets hurt a bunch and loses blood, her powers drop and she weakens. But if she had a suit on that kept pumping fresh blood thru her she would be constantly at or near 100%.

It wont be amping her past the 100% but will maintain her at or near that level that she wouldnt be able to maintain thru fighting without the suit.

Or if i had to hold up a heavy weight for 24 hrs that takes 90% of my strength to hold. Now i can hold it for a bit but my strength would start to drop. After an hr im down to 89% and wont be able to hold it. But if i had a suit that kept my strength at 90% i could hold it indefinitely and would be a feat i could accomplish that i wouldnt be able to sans suit.

Anywho thats what i think Carvers trying to say.

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I think i actually understand what carver is saying.

Its like if selene from underworld is at 100% after drinking blood. Shes super strong, fast, etc... If she gets hurt a bunch and loses blood, her powers drop and she weakens. But if she had a suit on that kept pumping fresh blood thru her she would be constantly at or near 100%.

It wont be amping her past the 100% but will maintain her at or near that level that she wouldnt be able to maintain thru fighting without the suit.

Or if i had to hold up a heavy weight for 24 hrs that takes 90% of my strength to hold. Now i can hold it for a bit but my strength would start to drop. After an hr im down to 89% and wont be able to hold it. But if i had a suit that kept my strength at 90% i could hold it indefinitely and would be a feat i could accomplish that i wouldnt be able to sans suit.

Anywho thats what i think Carvers trying to say.


You're right on point. This is EXACTLY what I am saying.


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. It's not about amping him, it's about him continuously being fed solar energy which means while fighting him, he will always be at his prime. Especially since we know solar energy heals kryptonians. Beating on him, choking him, etc... means NOTHING if he is continuously getting fed power. An example of this is when he was fighting the heroes, bleeding, crying (AFTER the armor was peeled off of him) and a touch of yellow Ray's touched him and he is healed instantly.



This is why intyped this up.


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That would mean he's invincible when he has the suit on.

Titans? PIS. Krypto? PIS. etc. Which is fair enough assumption.

Do you think he's unbeatable with the suit on?


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It depends.

Are most of your appearances at power lifting competitions with this suit on (assuming they're allowed; my analogy is imperfect).

In other words, is it standard equipment for you?

Do we say 'Tony Stark is only human level' when in vs fights? GL?

Or do we take their kit into account? Batman? Deathstroke?

Moreover, does your suit work by substituting for your muscles (through hydraulics or whatever) or does it allow you to lift 400lbs by weird timey wimey shenanigans, by bringing you to your own human potential (so if I wore the same suit, it enables me to lift 100lbs because that's my Max)?
gotcha. I would say, if my suit monitored by body chemistry and would/could give me a series of injections composed of super-performance enhancing drugs and steroids throughout the day.
Making ME, my body, physically stronger and keeping me at my previous, unenhanced, peak level.

That would b more similar to SBP's situation.
And, if I am artificially aiding my bodu to do something, that it normally can not do anymore, is that an "amp"?

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That's like Iron Man.

Once you cut him out of the suit, Stark is unable to perform at the same level as Iron Man.
right.

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Carver is correct.

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gotcha. I would say, if my suit monitored by body chemistry and would/could give me a series of injections composed of super-performance enhancing drugs and steroids throughout the day.
Making ME, my body, physically stronger and keeping me at my previous, unenhanced, peak level.

That would b more similar to SBP's situation.
And, if I am artificially aiding my bodu to do something, that it normally can not do anymore, is that an "amp"?


But with forum rules, we take you at your optimum time. When you could lift 400lbs.

If you think it's too far in the past, surely since you've been wearing your suit for five years now (or however long it is), then your suit is still standard equipment.

Either way, it's completely moot whether or not the suit is an amp.....

Either you A: it's standard equipment or B: you're entering powerlifting competitions at your old levels before you moved.


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But with forum rules, we take you at your optimum time. When you could lift 400lbs.

If you think it's too far in the past, surely since you've been wearing your suit for five years now (or however long it is), then your suit is still standard equipment.

Either way, it's completely moot whether or not the suit is an amp.....

Either you A: it's standard equipment or B: you're entering powerlifting competitions at your old levels before you moved.
right. How it pertains to the forum rules, I'm not sure. I was just pointing out carver was right about how he saw the details of the situation.

Forum Rules-
I will say this:
Savage Hulk, Joe Fixit, World Breaker Hulk, are ALL Hulk. With varied power levels.
But, they r used in the forum as different characters. Otherwise, Joe Fixit can go destroy other dimensions.

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That would mean he's invincible when he has the suit on.

Titans? PIS. Krypto? PIS. etc. Which is fair enough assumption.

Do you think he's unbeatable with the suit on?


Are you saying superman is invincible at optimum levels?


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That would mean he's invincible when he has the suit on.

Titans? PIS. Krypto? PIS. etc. Which is fair enough assumption.

Do you think he's unbeatable with the suit on?


Depends on how you dish out the damage. Did Krypto beat him or did he injure him? Also, if you're able to blitz/continuously punch Prime faster than what the suit can dish out solar energy (healing him since we know solar energy does heal Prime and the suit was able to get him near 100% in short moments), you can beat him. That's what the Titans did. They wailed on him non stop until he passed out.

I dont know why you're fighting this. The suit helps Prime. Plain and simple. No getting around this. This is the reason he decided to go for the suit after his yrs of capture instead of ya know, flying to the sun. The suit keeps him at optimum levels. He even admits this when both of the Supermen ran him into a red sun. The first thing he brought up was the suit because again, it's a factor in his performance. This is why the heroes mentioned removing the suit immediately, because the suit helps Prime. Any combat situations with it on means nothing because it's hard dropping a character that is bathing in his power source, consistently.


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So you think the Titans were not only hitting harder than Black Adam, but were also doing it faster than him?

That's why he was only tickled by BA, but KTFO by the Titans, some of whom included Robin?

Because that's an astronomical gap between tickling someone and knocking them out....

Ok.

Edit: a BA who was specifically out to kill SBP (You die today....)?


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So you think the Titans were not only hitting harder than Black Adam, but were also doing it faster than him?

That's why he was only tickled by BA, but KTFO by the Titans, some of whom included Robin?

Because that's an astronomical gap between tickling someone and knocking them out....

Ok.

Edit: a BA who was specifically out to kill SBP (You die today....)?


Does the suit feed him solar energy?


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Is the sky blue?


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Does the suit feed him solar energy?


What has that to do with anything, lol.

A: it's standard equipment.
B: why haven't you answered my question about Namors new costume?


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Is the sky blue?


Right now, the sky is dark grey where I am at. I'm asking Dark this for a reason but maybe you can answer it. Does the suit feed him solar energy? smile


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What has that to do with anything, lol.

A: it's standard equipment.
B: why haven't you answered my question about Namors new costume?


It's not standard equipment though.

Why are you avoiding my question?


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Right now, the sky is dark grey where I am at. I'm asking Dark this for a reason but maybe you can answer it. Does the suit feed him solar energy? smile

Bruce is the Dark Knight
He's the Darktaint.
U have a dark taint.
Where u are the skies are dark.
There's a dark caravan coming.




It all makes sense now.


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