Forum rules state he's at 100%. So at the very least, he's at suit levels.
Forum rules also state he won't be fighting at night, or in the dark. He's fighting on a battlefield that allows him to be at tip top optimum efficiency.
Which means magic immunity is on.
I mean, shall we make a thread where Wolverine fights Aquaman, and for some reason I assume it's in a tank that's slowly filling with water? No.
SBP isn't going to be fighting here on a battlefield where he's cut off from sunlight. So he's at the same constant levels, which according to you, makes him... invincible, lol.
optimum levels, not weakened or unusualy powered up.
I would think that using feats he accomplished while wearing a suit that literaly keeps him powered up would be considered an unusual power up, and wouldnt be allowed for a forum battle where prime doesnt have the suit on.
Unless like u said its being considered standard equip and he has it on for the fight in question. If not i dont see how his feats while wearing it should be considered in a forum battle where he doesnt have it on.
The Zod family didn't really seem stronger.. Simply as strong as ever. Zod was already a beast on Earth.
Nothing in the stories really touched on his power levels, either way. Not like Hal's power level, when Kyle borrowed his ring and talked about how strong he felt.
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Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
Carver would be funstoppable if he actually knew how to properly address things and problems. Not unstoppable, but funner... maybe.
I wonder if when he sees something he thinks isn't correct, there's no Superman to turn the Wheels of Carverdon inside his brain to make a proper retort? Not saying he could get to a great place considering his stance, but I mean you guys are just handing each other ins right and left here, and one is taking advantage, and one... can't.
It took Carver pages to properly formulate a coherent argument. I couldn't understand what the fuk he was saying and I'm pretty sure he completely changed his direction but I don't want to go back and read any of it. I don't know if you're shooting shit out too fast, but I'm pretty sure you've gone too far and too consistently missed handouts to "win" here. If you're wrong and it doesn't change your actual argument, then whatever, but I mean... this isn't that.
You're essentially arguing that the suit gives him a healing factor/"infinite stamina" that doesn't quite put him at 100 percent. Do I agree with that? I don't even care. But it's tough trying to follow this fukking mess when it's not that hard to sum up. This is why I skim through threads, so I don't see so many issues and feel the need to retort.
It's taken you a while to get to your point and I'm 90 percent sure you're going to pivot once Darthstain starts poking holes in it.
I think Prime power source Grant's a bigger boost than Namor. Example, once the suit was tore off, Prime was getting destroyed by the heroes. A touch of sunlight on his freaking hand healed all of his injuries he received fighting the heroes and he was to casually brush them off.
This is with just a beam of light on his hand. Lol... the suit is consistently feeding his entire body sunlight. ALWAYS. Also, where was it said that he was always weakened while having the suit on? Scans.
A finger of sunlight makes him able to brush all those superheroes off.
Ok.
But despite having a suit that continually feeds him sunlight (and presumably more than a fingers worth)...he gets KOd? Like you yourself said, it's feeding his entire body with sunlight.
Lol... If it makes you sleep better at night, YOU can call it PIS. That showing doesnt take away from anything that was said in this thread. It just doesnt. Again, I don't know why you are battling this. If it was Hulk wearing a gamma suit that dished out gamma energy keeping him refreshed, you would be all over it. You're only doing this because of your love for DC (and Superman characters). I'm done debating this. I proved my point.
If it was a weakened Hulk that was at sub optimal levels wearing a suit to restore his gamma powers, and claimed even with the suit he was still weakened, I'm pretty sure he'd take that into account..
The same way Great Darkness Darkseid was weaker then normal, even after absorbing multiple magical relics, like Excalibur and Mordru's power. The only one's who argue he was amped, are people who didn't read the story, or chose to ignore context.
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Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
A finger worth of sunlight heals him from all that damage the heroes dished out. Please could you post the scan of the heroes he threw off? I don't remember
So that was a single finger. Like you said, he has an entire bodys worth of CONSTANT sunlight (your words) constantly healing him (your words).
So in your logic, the Titans were able to dish out more damage than all those heroes. Than a Black Adam (who you acknowledge as Superman's equal), who is also out to kill him?
Lol. Remember, he's getting a suits worth of sunlight constantly, when a finger is enough to heal him.....
Lol. I fear the debate was all one sided on your part. I still don't think you understood the implications of what you were attempting to argue.
Or perhaps you now have, and so have chucked in the towel
I can argue that the suit DOESN'T constantly feed him sun, or it only gives him a tiny amount of sun energy, certainly not enough to heal him to 100% in the midst of battle.
My proof? We know a finger worth of sun enables him to throw Wonder Woman, Alan Scott, Superman, Supergirl etc etc off and heal his injuries.
But when he had the suit on, the Titans beat the snot out of him. Therefore, it can't heal him THAT much.
Carver.
You won. But, u probably CAN'T win, because it would b a PHUCKING MESS. For past, present and future debates.
For the entire Omniverse, crossing comic book compay borders, infestimg our homes, tempting all the young people to WEAR SHORT-PANTS!
It would bring the whole system down.
Carver... you r like Rorschach, at the end of Watchmen.
This secret is too big. The people, cannot handle the truth.
I'm sorry to say, you cannot b allowed to leave here alive.
Now, take off that stupid mask, so i can explode you.
At this one moment, u hold in your hands ORDER and CHAOS.
If u choose to stay in this place and expose that which must not b exposed (I don't mean abhi), our Omniverse will decay into a kind of NERDY CHAOS.
If u choose to continue hiding this grotesque secret (I don't mean abhi), u will remain one of the few, who truly see the true nature of comic book debates. Kind of like Neo being able to see the Matrix, only MUCH, MUCH DORKIER. In this way, u will ensure a type of STUPID ORDER.
But, u must b willing to Let Go. And, perhaps revisit this topic once again in the future, when u and Morpheus r working together.
Can u do that? Neo-Carver? Can u allow the Omniverse to sleep soundly for another night?
(Carver is correct. In this case, SBP'S suit is amping him above his weakened Normal power level, by feeding him power that he does not contain maturally.)
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