piss off......... no fu*king way......... Mordor sent thousands upon thousands of troops to Helmsdeep and to the city fight in the third film...... and still had shitloads at the mountain....... put all of these together and we have a bunch of very dead X-Men....... even Colossus would eventually fall
yeah......... but thousands of "red shirts" died......... the only way to survive one of these movies is to make sure someone important knows your name..... and even then it's iffy
not a thousand though....... there's a hell of a lot to be said for an army working against more powerful but much fewer opponents...... i'll take the team of 40,000 over the team of 10 most times...... unless there is a hugely powerul character on the samll team but as far as i know we're tsalking about Wolverine, Cyclops, Colossus and so on at the not-exactly-staggering power level
The close combat weapons of Mordor's armies like swords, spears, or that huge ram used to enter in Minas Tirith are nothing compared to Colossus metallic body.He's a low level Class 100 but compared to the orcs or trolls he's a god.He can shatter them into the ground with 1fist.
Wolverine will fall?He survive to the weapons of modern world as the hi-tech rifles of A.I.M. he was burned up alive, he was stabbed and cutted, and now you think that the uruk hai or the orcs stand a chance?How many monster has fought Logan in his life?Does the namer Wendigo remember you something?
Cyclops can just use his blast at full power while he's protected by Jeans force fields and blast the orcs.Ice Man with his actual power level can turn himself into an ice giant and stomp the enemy with ease.
I think they make it up to the ringwraiths. And that's assuming this is a big chunk of the entire Xmen roster, with several heavy hitters. Sauron never has to deal with them, but he does have to replace his poor orc/uruk-hai/troll armies.
and even the nazgul would have problems, if a sword can beat em, then cyclops (a living surface to air weapon) and storm's lightning will wipe them out...
sauron doesnt actually fight... and when he did he was beaten when he lost the ring... there are at least five or six xmen who could take the ring...
All cases of magic. Magic and things imbued with magic are the only things that actually hurt a Nazgul, much less kill them. They are walking evil spirits empowered my magical rings forged by Sauron, Cyclops or Polaris or anyone else is just gonna mess up their robes.
Sauron does fight, he just got a little too cocky and concentrated most of his power into a single ring which was then cut off by a powerful magical sword. Wizards like Gandalf and Sauron are in reality the equivalent of angels or demi-gods in Tolkien's universe, and it took all the good wizards working together to drive Sauron back when he was missing his ring and disguised as a necromancer.
One, he had been weakened/distracted by being shanked in the "leg" by a Hobbit with a magical sword (I know that in the movies it wasn't magical, but it was in the books, damnit). Second, Eowyn was destined to kill the Witch King. She was the "no man" who could kill him.
Err, well, okay, maybe Angel could do some damage on the lesser Nazgul with his soulsword, but not the Witch King. He's destined to be killed by only one person, and it ain't Angel.
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i still think the evil army would win, Cyclops would be one of the easiest to kill along with Gambit and Bishop... some of the others are tough but they are fighting overwhelming numbers and magical enemies..... plus they'll probably crap themselves when they see 50,000+ monsters running at them
And exactly. I don't even see them making it past his armies and Sauron's lieutenants and generals who Sauron personally oversees and empowers. The few who manage to survive will get obliterated by the Nazgul.
Actually, Sauron keeps constant mental control over his armies, just to make them function together, since normally Trolls would eat orcs and orcs and uruk-hai would slaughter each other. They might be able to shut some minds down with psychic attacks, but controlling them is not an option.
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