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Ushgarak
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It doesn't matter a damn what order your friends or anyone else watches the films in. These films are designewd with the fact that the original films exist already in mind, therefore it is POINTLESS to keep any surprises.
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Apr 4th, 2002 05:11 PM |
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yerssot
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yup, Ush his comment 
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Apr 4th, 2002 05:32 PM |
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Amidala
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The Dr would make a good Business Analyst but not a great movie maker i fear.
There is enough detail to cover in that prediction file to round out a 10 hour mini series titled EPIII - the winds of war.
I think that because there are a lot of loose ends to be tied up GL will have to stick to the main story, simple ideas and some neat surprises and some mass death scenes. I would forget about Bail Organa and a lot of the owen lars stuff, it is side information that doesnt need to be told.
For things to fit into line i think that:
The start of EPIII will handle within the scroll text, Padme has given birth to twins while her husband Anakin is away fighting in the clone wars with obi1. For leia to have known her mother and for padme to die they must be alive at the start of the movie. Anakin leaves while she is pregnant so he knows of the impending birth.
To lava or not to lava... who knows, perhaps the lava stuff is valid perhaps anakin has a severe shaving accident, we will have to wait for a definitive answer.
The only novelisation stuff that i think is totally on the right track is the stuff from EPI, there is also a very large section of the book dedicated to how good anakin starts out in life by helping the Tuskan, this is setting up the Tuskan camp scene as a parallel to show how life can change someone. I do think Anakin will face his bride in battle and perhaps - more than likely she will end her days then, by his hand? I think not, a little to evil for a man that will eventually turn back.
Ob1 and Yoda to save their great qualities will i believe only run from the empire because they see the only future is with the twins and that they must be protected at all costs.
I must admit that the thing i most want to find out is why the Cave is so soaked with the darkside on dagobah, i know there has been 1,000 attempts to tell this tale but i want to know for sure!!!
To cut an extremely long story short, there were some great ideas based on loose facts, but there was also a lot of pure garbage speculation. i like how it starts like a laboratory exam and ends like a spider man comic, imaginations always over rule facts. Not unlike some of the efforts i have put forward. 
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DJ Velocity
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So who WANTS to see the lava scene to explain Vader's mankiness?
I would like to see it, but Vader's wounds do not look like burns, especially the crater on the back of his napper
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Apr 24th, 2002 07:12 AM |
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He-Man
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So, maybe anakins whole body doesn't fall there. I mean his head doesn't have to sink. Maybe Palpatine comes and takes a nice grip from Anakins hair and lifts him out of there. And The "crater" could have came from Ani wearing that helmet for a long time.
Anyway, the lava fight would propably be very, very cool. But it would be even cooler if there would be some explanation for it that we don't know yet. Something new. 
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Apr 24th, 2002 12:23 PM |
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Emperor Helmet
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Location: United States
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Haven't you guys learned yet. What you think will happen, never does.
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Apr 26th, 2002 01:32 PM |
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jedi fernando
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Mexico
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i believe in the lava story.
in early sketches GL wanted to have the las scene of ROTJ (or was it ESB?) in some place in the capital of the empire where the emperor has his thrown room surrounded by lava. the same spot where maybe anakin fights obiwan.
there is also the theory of this "vulcano" planet where there is a force crystal full of power that the emperor/sidious wants to get to be all powerfull. when anakin arrives where the crystal is before sidious and obi wan the crystal consumes anakin completly and turns him 100% to the dark side. obiwan tells him to get rid of the crystal and throw it to the lava but anakin turns against him and they fight. obiwan wins and somehow anakin and the crystal fall to the lava. when sidious arrives to the planet looking fgor the crystal he finds anakin´s body and he then cures him giving him a mechanical body. (sounds a lot like the end of LOTR aint it?)
but this are all theories. maybe they´re 100% wrong or maybe they´re only 50% wrong or maybe they´re only 5% right. we dont have any idea.
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Apr 26th, 2002 04:50 PM |
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Ushgarak
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Location: Chelmsford, Essex, UKCo-Admin
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Fernando, no-one is saying that the lava idea never existed.
But it was a VERY long time ago, and everyone is pretty sure that GL will not use this ancient idea.
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Apr 26th, 2002 05:08 PM |
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Emperor Helmet
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Location: United States
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Exactly. It is far fetched to think he will re-hash this idea. Look at what he did with the Boba Fett history.
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Apr 26th, 2002 05:35 PM |
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Julie
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Location: New Jersey
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I agree.....lava story line too well known to be effective
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Apr 28th, 2002 04:44 AM |
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REXXXX
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Jedi Fernando, your theory sounds like LOTR. No offense.
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May 4th, 2002 07:56 PM |
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DJ Velocity
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Hartlepool, England
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So what environments do you think GL will have in Ep3? I mean, he will be scraping the barrel.
We have:
Desert - Tattoine, Geonosis
Forrest - Endor
Snow - Hoth
Futuristic - Death Star
Old - Naboo
Under Water - Otoh Gunga
On Water - Kamino
About the only thing I can think of now is a "lava" planet!!!
Ush, how can you be certain that he won't use this? Not wanting to start a war, I'm just curious.
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May 5th, 2002 08:11 AM |
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Ushgarak
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I'm not actually certain. I put it rather more strongly there than I have elsewhere.
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