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namorsubby
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Originally posted by Silent Master
True, even is you ignore several of the highest feats from that list, most of the rest is still > Wildcat's feats.
you know nothing besides what i've stated off the top of my head, so i doubt you're in a position to make such a statement.


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Originally posted by Warrior18
Even if you see those feats as part of Cap's jobber aura, his other feats still surpass everything you listed Wildcat as doing. erm

ps Batman has decked Wildcat before with suprising ease.
when? specific issue would be nice. i've heard thy've had several fights in which WC always gave him a hard time and seemed stronger/more durable.


i know for sure that there's at least one example of this. brave and the bold #118


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Those aren't his high end showings, If I wanted to list those I start with him throwing his shield fast enough to catch an ICBM.

As for his crossover fights with Batman(which don't really count), one was fan voted and Cap had the advantage in the other two.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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you know nothing besides what i've stated off the top of my head, so i doubt you're in a position to make such a statement.


Then start posting matching feats for Wildcat.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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lol.i'm not going to start working to conjour up a crapload of feats when i know some guy will just sit back and pick apart every scene.trust me, i know.i'm big on posting scans. not so much so anyore though.


found a better approach. i've used a reference point, batman.


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well again, i don't want to be the bad guy here. so i'll try a different approach.



it is so very clear now from those scans that cap is definitely a marvel counterpart to batman. they're "high-end" showings are equaling.............i'll just say "amazing".

cap has 1 stalmate and 1 loss against batman. WC on the other hand had an obvious advantage when he fought bats. their fight was also much more brutal. they fought roman gladiator style with spiked metal gloves. the first fight cap had with bats in the marvel/dc crossover is the most compelling piece to this arguement. he did worse against batman h2h than wildcat even though he had his ultimate weapon of choice which he has mastered like no other could.there's no denying he's much more formiddable with that shield. batman never relinquished a weapon until the final scene of the fight where he took advantage of cap's distraction and nailed him with a batarang..........i think it's a little softer than him hitting him with a spiked metal glove though.


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IOW, You can't prove that Wildcat is on Cap's level.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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just did..........and without slaving to impress you.address the quoted statement.


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No, you didn't, proof would be showing matching or superior feats for Wildcat and that is something you refuse to do.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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Originally posted by namorsubby
lol.i'm not going to start working to conjour up a crapload of feats when i know some guy will just sit back and pick apart every scene.trust me, i know.i'm big on posting scans. not so much so anyore though.


found a better approach. i've used a reference point, batman.


Wasn't one of the crossovers fan voted. Also Batman stated Cap would probably win if they straight up fought. Anyway we should not turn this into Cap v Batman.
Wildcat is physically outclassed by Cap in every way. Plus Cap is more skilled. Did Cap not learn an alien martial art in one day or something crazy like that?

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Wasn't one of the crossovers fan voted. Also Batman stated Cap would probably win if they straight up fought. Anyway we should not turn this into Cap v Batman.
Wildcat is physically outclassed by Cap in every way. Plus Cap is more skilled. Did Cap not learn an alien martial art in one day or something crazy like that?


how can you make such a statement when all you know is what i have most generously provided for you? BTW, you weren't very appreciative either. when a man provides you data to base an argument on, you thank him.laughing out loud


the fact that batman said cap probably would've won in the jla/avengers thing only further helps my arguement. wildcat had the advantage just like cap did when they fought, but it was more obvious. cap's stamina was all that influenced batman to make such a claim. i believe batman said something like this to wildcat:

"you almost tore my head off with that last one"


FYI that >cap/bat confrontation


BTW guys, you don't have to fret. i did vote cap FTW you knowlaughing out loud


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Originally posted by namorsubby
cap's stamina was all that influenced batman to make such a claim. i


Prove that.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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they were evenly matched forever. batman stated that if it went on, cap probably wouldn't won. if it's not obvious to you that stamina is the issue here........i just don't know what to say to you.laughing out loud


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The fight/test didn't last long enough for Batman to realize Cap has enhanced stamina, IOW you're just speculating on the reason.

The writer himself(Kurt) said that Batman was admitting Cap was more skilled.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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This is downright frustrating. Namorsubby wants everybody to prove that Cap is better and when they do, he refuses to counter with anything comparable because people will pick it apart. Amazing. The best he comes up with is freaking crossovers in which the only time Batman won was when it was the fan voted mess. Also speaking of DC counterparts, Batman and Wildcat are peak human and can never achieve anything beyond that unless they gain some outside power source later in their careers. Cap has a super soldier serum. He is beyond peak human.

It really is that simple.


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This is downright frustrating. Namorsubby wants everybody to prove that Cap is better and when they do, he refuses to counter with anything comparable because people will pick it apart. Amazing. The best he comes up with is freaking crossovers in which the only time Batman won was when it was the fan voted mess. Also speaking of DC counterparts, Batman and Wildcat are peak human and can never achieve anything beyond that unless they gain some outside power source later in their careers. Cap has a super soldier serum. He is beyond peak human.

It really is that simple.


Precisely. I've given up debating this subject with him.

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Originally posted by tkitna
This is downright frustrating. Namorsubby wants everybody to prove that Cap is better and when they do, he refuses to counter with anything comparable because people will pick it apart. Amazing. The best he comes up with is freaking crossovers in which the only time Batman won was when it was the fan voted mess. Also speaking of DC counterparts, Batman and Wildcat are peak human and can never achieve anything beyond that unless they gain some outside power source later in their careers. Cap has a super soldier serum. He is beyond peak human.

It really is that simple.
i can't believe this. this is downright insufferable.


what in god's name have you guys been reading from me? if you try to throw some crap about cap competing with 90 class and 100 class guys the yeah of course i'm gonna shot it down. IT'S CALLED COMMON SENSE.what else besides those ridiculous showings does cap have on him? you guys expect to tell you everything you need to know about wildcat and provide scans while you're arguing against him and you don't even know ho is. the fact that there's several of you popping out posts right and left that don't exactly hit on the core off my argument doesn't help either FYI.


*sigh*........................forget it. anyway,stop whining, i voted cap FTW anyway. i was just trying to enlighten you guys on wildcat. lost causes evidently.


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CAPTAIN AMERICA IS PEAK HUMAN.IF HE'D WAS BEYOND THAT, HE BE SUPERHUMAN.


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1. what class is captain america?

2.captain america is still a street leveler right? not a mid teir or even a low meta?

3.explain to me just how bic C managed to accomplish those things after you accurately answer those questions.


Cap is a low Meta

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i can't believe this. this is downright insufferable.


what in god's name have you guys been reading from me? if you try to throw some crap about cap competing with 90 class and 100 class guys the yeah of course i'm gonna shot it down. IT'S CALLED COMMON SENSE.what else besides those ridiculous showings does cap have on him? you guys expect to tell you everything you need to know about wildcat and provide scans while you're arguing against him and you don't even know ho is. the fact that there's several of you popping out posts right and left that don't exactly hit on the core off my argument doesn't help either FYI.


*sigh*........................forget it. anyway,stop whining, i voted cap FTW anyway. i was just trying to enlighten you guys on wildcat. lost causes evidently.


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CAPTAIN AMERICA IS PEAK HUMAN.IF HE'D WAS BEYOND THAT, HE BE SUPERHUMAN.
He is beyond peak human dummy . Cap has nigh unlimited stamina.

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He is beyond peak human dummy . Cap has nigh unlimited stamina.
lol. my friend i assure you that cap is not a low-meta.

i don't understand how you can know of cap and not know that. being peak human is definitely what is most stressed when mentioning cap's power. check a bio, a comic, anywhere.


oh, and reported wink

edit:

"Physical attributes enhanced to peak of human potential"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_america


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Cap is a low Meta

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f95/t447826.html

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He is beyond peak human dummy . Cap has nigh unlimited stamina.
Please back your claims and stop with the names. Thanks


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