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my defense is what the point of speed blitzing someone that wouldnt even feel it and that would get stronger each time he tries to speed blitz him. Another thing when this fight is taking place, cannonball is going to be in flight, so hes invulnerable and yes to superman heat vision.

Did you not read the rest of the bio, he can put a bubble around superman and can keep punching him all in the face if he wants to. He did that while fighting this robot that had all of the powers of the xmen.

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look here and see him take a punch that comes from a guy who strength is unlimited.and this is the teenage version that havent fully tapped into his powers like the older version has.


http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/spotl...o=80&page=5

This page has nothing about Sam getting punched by an abstract, somone with the power gem, Galactus, someone with the Infinity Gauntlet. Where's the unlimited strength?
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whats up swanky glad your here to debate. gladiator and superman heat vision are the same and sam didnt even feel it.

Did you not just read what I said? Not all heat visions are the same.
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Is superman arctic breath as cold as ice mans powers because during a training session cannonball was increasing the temperature in his forcefield and the ice wasnt doing nothing but melting.

Then he obviously wasn't trying to freeze Cannonball like Superman will try to do.
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Do you know that nothing can go into his bio forcefied, NOTHING. Not heat vision, not punches, not arctic breath, nothing can get into the force field.

Then when he's using his blast shield to protect himself from Superman he'll sufficate.


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Gladiator didn't use heat vision in that fight....... has there been another fight between those 2?


if gladiator fights the current cannonball, cannonball will give him a run for his money.

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swanky gladiator strength is unlimited, shiar technology gives him additional strength. In that bio i gave you, he gave cannonball the strongest blow that he had and said that it will take him to the center of the sun and cannonball absorbed it all. Superman punches aint doing anything to cannonball; sorry.

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swanky gladiator strength is unlimited


lol..... then why does he state that Thor is too strong for him to kill in another fight?


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this is a bio of gladiator, who is superior to superman: look in this bio and it will simply tell you that his strength incalcuable:

Intelligence: Above normal
Strength: Incalculable
Speed: Supersonic
Flight Speed: Warp speed
Stamina: Demi-godlike
Durability: Demi-godlike
Agility: Metahuman
Reflexes: Metahuman
Fighting Skills: Excellent hand-to-hand combatant
Special Skills/Abilities: unrevealed
Superhuman physical powers: Aside from the above listed attributes, Gladiator has the ability to project intense heat from eyes and the ability to survive without breathing for an unrevealed period of time
Superhuman Mental Powers: None. (Gladiator's powers were formerly theorized to be at least in part psionically based)
Special Limitations: Vulnerability to an unknown form of radiation
Source of Superhuman Powers: Unrevealed
Personal Weaponry: none

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swanky gladiator strength is unlimited, shiar technology gives him additional strength. In that bio i gave you, he gave cannonball the strongest blow that he had and said that it will take him to the center of the sun and cannonball absorbed it all. Superman punches aint doing anything to cannonball; sorry.

Gladiator's strength is not unlimited.

Hey, you know what? Sebastian Shaw absorbs kinetic energy and he has a limit. I wonder if we'll find Cannonball's limit if we have him get hit a couple thousand times a second by Supes.


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Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Gladiator's strength is not unlimited.

Hey, you know what? Sebastian Shaw absorbs kinetic energy and he has a limit. I wonder if we'll find Cannonball's limit if we have him get hit a couple thousand times a second by Supes.


If he could take a punch from gladiator that was stated to be able to move planets demostrated shattering a planet with his fist. Im thinking that he could take all of superman punches.

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this is a bio of gladiator, who is superior to superman: look in this bio and it will simply tell you that his strength incalcuable:

in·cal·cu·la·ble ( P ) Pronunciation Key (n-klky-l-bl)
adj.

1.
a. Impossible to calculate: a mass of incalculable figures.
b. Too great to be calculated or reckoned: incalculable wealth.

That's not unlimited.


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You have answered my question; in there it says that it is to great to calculate, impossible to calculate. why did they calculate hulk in the 100 ton range, why is thor calculated in the 100 ton range. they have all these calculations on everyone but they cant calculate gladiators. the reason why is because he has no limit.

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heres another one i found for you, i can prove it to you all day if you like:

The most powerful member of the Shi'ar Imperial Guard, the alien super hero known as Gladiator is also its most devoted protector! Possessing unlimited strength, virtual invulnerability, and a bevy of other abilities, Gladiator uses his powers on behalf of the throne of the Shi'ar Empire - no matter who may occupy it! Features Super Strength Power Punch!

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heres another one i found for you, i can prove it to you all day if you like:

The most powerful member of the Shi'ar Imperial Guard, the alien super hero known as Gladiator is also its most devoted protector! Possessing unlimited strength, virtual invulnerability, and a bevy of other abilities, Gladiator uses his powers on behalf of the throne of the Shi'ar Empire - no matter who may occupy it! !

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No derrick!

Superman would speedblitz CB BEFORE CB has a chance to activate his power.

He doesn't have an auto shield up 24/7, and he does get tired.


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First of all derrick24, Sam can't absorb limiltes kinetc energy, sure he could absorb most powerful Superman punch or his vision, but you are making Sam as limitless. Who would, I don't know, Cannonball could win this.


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You have answered my question; in there it says that it is to great to calculate, impossible to calculate. why did they calculate hulk in the 100 ton range, why is thor calculated in the 100 ton range. they have all these calculations on everyone but they cant calculate gladiators. the reason why is because he has no limit.

Gladiator in the class 100. And on that site it says Beta Ray Bill is incalculable too. He's just slightly stronger than Thor.


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No derrick!

Superman would speedblitz CB BEFORE CB has a chance to activate his power.

He doesn't have an auto shield up 24/7, and he does get tired.


in this fight both of them are ready to fight, sam is flying and superman and ready to ko sam.

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First of all derrick24, Sam can't absorb limiltes kinetc energy, sure he could absorb most powerful Superman punch or his vision, but you are making Sam as limitless. Who would, I don't know, Cannonball could win this.


Show me on any site where it says sam has a limit. from the bio i read of him, its not saying anything about a limit.

the guy took gladiator most powerful punch, if he had a limit it would have shown there.

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Show me on any site where it says sam has a limit. from the bio i read of him, its not saying anything about a limit.

the guy took gladiator most powerful punch, if he had a limit it would have shown there.


Hey, Gladiator has limit, even Living Tribunal has limits. Sam can be crushed. Do you really think he could absorb Galactus blast, no, he couldn't.


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