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then so be it

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how is it a conspiracy?
its all blatantly obvious, i know thats how the world is but does it have to be like this?


I'd rather it was like this than complete chaos and anarchy. smile

There is a reason for rules and consequences to the rules. And it is to avoid that chaos and anarchy. wink

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so the human race cant cope without the rules?
are we that dumb


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Is not being able to cope without rules considered dumb?

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i know its hard to think any other way or imagine anythin else but theres gotta be a better way..i look at all the shit it the world and i think there is more that could be done


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I agree that more could be done.

But even though I don't agree with all of them, I still think rules and consequences to rules are necessary.

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i know its hard to think any other way or imagine anythin else but theres gotta be a better way..


Become Amish and move to Pennsylvania. big grin


(Do only Americans get that joke? confused )

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well i dont get itbig grin


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bloody satanists


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Please note that I was joking when I said that.

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lol i know..i was joking too..note it down big grin


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Oh okay. Just making sure. big grin

But in all seriousness, they don't "serve the system" so to speak.

So is that what you are looking for, except without God in the equation?

Or is it something completely different?

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its kinda what im lookin for..i just think people need to chill out more and enjoy life
well from reading what i posted i think that its obvious the system causes alot of problems ...i think it should be changed..if the system was never introduced i think people would be alot happier with there lives and less full of worry.


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If young people want to be free they need to be strong enough to decide for themselves what to believe; they need to reject the download and not allow their parents or peer pressure to batter them into submission. Parents can be expert in playing the guilt card and making you feel bad because you don't do what they say or desire. If you want to be free, don't fall for that old mind game. If parents can't respect their children's right to freedom of belief then sod 'em, I say. They concede their right to be taken seriously. There are many fantastic parents who allow their children to develop without pressure and imposition, and many others who go the
other way and couldn't care less about what happens to their kids, never mind offer guidance and support. Whichever type we have it is up to us to follow our hearts and not any parental blueprint downloaded into our reality. I can understand why people go through their entire lives feeling guilty about not living up to their parents' expectations, or are resentful at the way their parents treated them. But, hey, I bring you glad tidings of great joy here. It's all bollocks. I Let us not forget, either, that the pendulum swings both ways. Children can also impose their will on their parents and use their own pack of guilt trips. 'Oh mother, you shouldn't be doing that at your age, it's embarrassing.' Well, piss off then and spare your embarrassment, the door is over there. Parents agonise over not being around for their children because circumstances prevent it.
Parental pressure is often connected to a major piece of software called the You Must Make Something of Your Life Program. This means 'succeeding' in ways that the system - and people programmed by the system - say constitutes success. This relates overwhelmingly to one of two things, usually both: status and money. We see the status software in what we call celebrity, but it extends to all the jobs and titles that make us a 'success' in the system's terms. This includes the status of being a
president or prime minister, lawyer, judge, chief of police, military leader, doctor, top businessman, stockbroker or television newsreader


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Originally posted by Ushgarak
Society is a social contract between the individual and the state, and frankly we get WAY more from it than we give in. To complain is breathtaking.


Exactly.....if you don'T feel free enough society gives you the freedom to **** off....you don't have to lived in GB you can just go to an uninhabitat Island if you want......you know why you don't....cause society is too good to us......


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Bullshit, you say we can go away but we can't...

We really do live in a prison without walls, only very few have the guts to go away and do something else in another place. So very few people have the guts to do that.

Could you honestly survive on an iland all alone? No you couldn't, you would need supermarkets people to talk to, people to build your house to make your kitchen to supply you with electricity. Almost nobody could survive without human contact, well maybe some could but none could do it if they were out there alone with no possibility of ever seeing people again, if you could return at any time it would be a lot easier but still far to hard for most people. You live in a prison, maybe one without walls but we are bound to certain things because of society.

Freedom is an illusion always has been, of all people you should know that. But it hardly matters really, as long as the people that keep you locked up are still fighting each other we will have no real problems because of it and we can still get the things we want. So no need to worry about it really, we should get worried when there is no longer any difference between the political party's and when the leaders are best friends... thats when problems will happen.


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Bullshit, you say we can go away but we can't...

We really do live in a prison without walls, only very few have the guts to go away and do something else in another place. So very few people have the guts to do that.

Could you honestly survive on an iland all alone? No you couldn't, you would need supermarkets people to talk to, people to build your house to make your kitchen to supply you with electricity. Almost nobody could survive without human contact, well maybe some could but none could do it if they were out there alone with no possibility of ever seeing people again, if you could return at any time it would be a lot easier but still far to hard for most people. You live in a prison, maybe one without walls but we are bound to certain things because of society.

Freedom is an illusion always has been, of all people you should know that. But it hardly matters really, as long as the people that keep you locked up are still fighting each other we will have no real problems because of it and we can still get the things we want. So no need to worry about it really, we should get worried when there is no longer any difference between the political party's and when the leaders are best friends... thats when problems will happen.


You call bullshit, but nowhere in your post do you state how society does not allow you to leave and be by yourself. Guts is an individual trait. If you do not have the courage to leave society and go off on your own, it is a shortcoming of your, not society's fault. People have left the comforts of society to be their own, and they survived fine.

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Originally posted by Fishy
Bullshit, you say we can go away but we can't...

We really do live in a prison without walls, only very few have the guts to go away and do something else in another place. So very few people have the guts to do that.

Could you honestly survive on an iland all alone? No you couldn't, you would need supermarkets people to talk to, people to build your house to make your kitchen to supply you with electricity. Almost nobody could survive without human contact, well maybe some could but none could do it if they were out there alone with no possibility of ever seeing people again, if you could return at any time it would be a lot easier but still far to hard for most people. You live in a prison, maybe one without walls but we are bound to certain things because of society.

Freedom is an illusion always has been, of all people you should know that. But it hardly matters really, as long as the people that keep you locked up are still fighting each other we will have no real problems because of it and we can still get the things we want. So no need to worry about it really, we should get worried when there is no longer any difference between the political party's and when the leaders are best friends... thats when problems will happen.

No dude that'S what I am saying...you have the freedom...you just can't use it...I ca't either.....but I know whenever I wanted I could just leave y house walk south and find some uninhabited place to live......furthermore I kn ow i would die within weeks so I don't but I can...no ones stopping e...and even if...I can still do what I want...just cause someone says I can't doesn't mean a thing...cause humans are free....they are just not strong and can't or don't want to use their freeedom.


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Deano, you speak of the "shit" world quite a bit, but you never offer suggestions to make it better.

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I decided I won't read anything by David Icke anymore....not that I read much in the first place (can't blame me I also don't hit my face with a gold brick much)


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