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Not sure about that, but Beta Ray has a great showing against Warrior Madness Thor. Honestly, I'd put BRB over Thor in a couple categories; enough for him to take the odds in a fight.
What? You mean that fight that ended up with Thor and Bill double KO-ing each other? Only to have Bill admit that he was only re-awakened by the surrounding environment?
Besides; neither Combatant had their Hammer in that fight, and it isn't like Beta Ray got a Thor-power-up plus storm breaker, he just got Storm breaker - a hammer with similar mystical properties.
They are about dead equal in every respect, save for the fact that Thor has shown some slightly more impressive feats with Mjolnir than Bill has with Stormbreaker.
I will agree with you on one point, though; if Bill is still cosmic, then the fight is a bit ridiculous.
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But your forgetting, Thor doesn't need his hammer. he has all those powers with in him. BRB fightin Thor without those very same powers is very impressive.
I agree with you a lot in here. But, just a little different with these guys.
For some reason, I think BRB has Thor's number.
Back when they first met, without any hammer, magic or upgrades, he really did beat Thor pretty easily.
That has to mean something, even though I know it was a lot closer when they did it in front of Odin for the hammer.
With both having the hammers, I say that it goes for Bill either 6/10 or 7/10, although Thor is still more than capable of pulling out some fights against BRB.
These are 2 of the most respectable characters in comics.
Actually, Thor had the upper hand in their first fight.
In the second fight, Thor was fighting without his godly power which was removed by Odin. In other words, he was just a stronger than average Asgardian.
Well I can't wait to see either of them return or at least appear in a comic. Im getting tired of waiting especially after they put me in the trick bag in Civil War #4.
so many uncertain answers. RKT states in the last issue of Ragnarok that he felt the odin force slipping away so he may not have it on his return. DB and the hammer is another thing altogether.
Who else would have it? I thought that even though at the end of Ragnarok while Thor had possession of the odinforce, that there was still the personification of the force? Who else would be left to inherit the Odin Force, and would that also mean he lost the Knowledge of the runes?
I have no idea. I'm stating this because I just recently re-read Ragnarok when Thor states he feels the odin force slipping at the end. That of course should make no sense. How do you take away wisdom?
Sorry man. I don't mean to argue, but you are wrong.
I have the comic with thier first fight aboard Skuttlebutt, BRB's ship.
Right from the start, Bill is frozen, Thor looks down at his frozen form.
BRB's hand smashes throw the ice and grabs Thor's whole face. Thor gets tossed.
Bill is up, and says he thinks Thor is a demon from Surtur. They fight, and in just a few panels, BRB thrashes him. Thor is knocked out. BRB picks up Mjolnir and changes into BRB.
That is how it went down. Read it.
The next fight, in front of Odin was the one that was VERY close. Mostly a draw if you ask me.
Beta Ray Bill ambushed Thor and was doing his best to destroy him yet wasn't even close to knocking out Thor. Thor, fighting with bare fists, acknowledged that BRB was the toughest mortal he had ever faced but he had gained the upper hand and was offering BRB a chance to surrender. He was about to cut loose saying "you leave me no choice" but at that very moment, Thor, having forgotten about his hammer, turned into his human form. Beta Ray Bill thought it was a "trick" and smashed human Thor unconcious. The blow should have killed him but it's just a comic book after all and that would have been a bad way for the Thor series to end.
The fight was actually in a place where Odin knew BRB would have an advantage. Odin stripped Thor of all his godly power and was intent on having Thor loose in order to teach him a lesson. In other words, the odds were intentionally stacked against Thor.
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