DBZ shouldn't be banned from here, it should just mean that people actually have to use some creative pwers to come up with something that could actually stand a chance against them. Silver Surfer is pretty damn strong, Is he banned too?
I think its more the type of characters that make pll lose theyr minds in a debate. Pretty much every superhero has ridiculous feats from time to time. Its all the same to me.
DB just likes to do them more of a daily basis. But then agains so does DC.
cause every thread we have with a dbz character turns into a HUUUUUGE fight rather than a debate.....
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thanks for the heads up... I guess it would get annoying when there's a guy there to point out why you are ALWAYS wrong and THEN have proof to back it up...so I don't exactly blame them...being proved wrong on a daily basis must be a *****.....
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Perfect Cell would make out of Silver Surfer a joke.
Perfect Cell is 1000000 faster than light or even more. He can blow the planet with one finger. Already Frieza blew Saiyan world with two finger and was laughing, Frieza used 1 % of his power to destroy the world. Perfect Cell is exponately more powerful than Frieza, he would own King Thor and one million Superman.
i just don't know about that..I mean superman can fly so fast he laps the world in a moment.....dbz characters take hours to fly around a world.......hell even super vegeta took a good hour to half an hour just to get from kami's to cell.....superman's definitely got a speed advantage...and in terms of brute strength....piccolo AND goku had difficulty lifting a bus from what I can remember...so they are not winning there either.....they can blow shit up..and they do that well....but supes takes planet busting shots on a regular basis....I don't know if cell's ready for an oponent like him....while superman does not have the energy projecting abilities of a dbz fighter...he DOES however seem to have EVERYTHING ELSE..
__________________ "damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
Creator of DBZ, Akira himself said that many DBZ characters are exponantely faster than speed of light. Perfect Cell has defientlly a speed advantage more than hundreds and hundreds of time over Superman. Hell, even Raditz was faster than speed of light, who is milllion times weaker than Goku and million times slower than Goku, literally. Frieza used less than 1 % of his power to destroy the world, less then 1% (and Goku is more than hundreds times more powerful than Frieza, hell later he was playing with Perfcet Cell and Frieza at the same, time, he was playing with them), literally. Superman wouldn't be able to see them. Only advantage of Superman is strenght. Goku would be far and far... far too much for Superman and also Perfect Cell would be far too much for Superman.
how are they faster than the speed of light...YET when they go out to meet an enemy they take an extremely long time to do it... case in point....
mystic gohan had to go out to fight super buu....when he did he was transported back to the earth away from the fight....he took off...and it took him 12 or 15 minutes to get to buu...superman takes moments....just moments....he took darksied to the sun in 3 panals.....other than instant transmition I don't see ANY indication that dbz fighters are indeed faster....
there has been even less indication that they move at the speed of light....
__________________ "damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
Wow, you take everything literally that is happening in DBZ, when they are fighting, times is 10000 slower than out time, cause they are so fast (that is why you think he need 12 minutes, actully time is thousand times slower and even than they are moving faster than eye can see, not human eye, their eye), cause they are so fast.
And if createor said that they are hundreds and hundredrs (better one hundered thousand times faster than light it's enough.
Even Crillin can move hunderd times faster than Superman.
time doesn't slow down for the purposes of the show...think about it like this....I can accept that if the character showed to ability to do what he says they can do..than they win...however.going off HOW the characters have been represented the argument is flawed....goku nearly took over half a year to clear that road to get to king kais.... if he was as fast as you claim then it wouldn't have taken nearly as long.....not even close...remember you said radditz moves faster than light speed.....
sorry man but seriously going off HOW they'e actually been represented...they don't even come close to supe's speed..not even close...
__________________ "damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
if that the cass then why did goku state that the tranmission move allowed him to move at 200,000 m/s. with is just a lil faster then light. mind u the speed of light is 186,000 m/s. now if cell was able to move a thousand time times faster then light then when goku used his instant transmission he would have been going slower. and another thing dbz character are only powerful in turms of blowing things up. that it characters like silver surfer, superman are all fasterstronger and more durable then dbx fighters. i m not saying dbz characters are weak i no any one of them could blow a planet without realy thinking about it. but how many of them could destroy a planet with there fist alone.
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Goku can move more than 1000x times faster than speed of light. Even Radditz was faster, creator of DBZ said that. Superman speed is literally insect compared to theirs. About durabilty, look Majin Buu who can destroy world with 0.1 % of his power, Goku was taking his maximu and was still alive and able to fight noramlly, but was little hurt. And look fanboys, I like Superman equally as Goku, but he is nothing to him.
Goku reange of pwoer is 10000x time greter than Superman. And Goku can shoot the power of all universe combiend (all living beings, galaxies, stars and that power was in Goku hand) .
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het there's really no need to call anyone fanboys here...so cool it...
you're the one defending a character's ability to do something even though they've NEVER been able to do what you claim they can....so I wouldn't be calling anyone fanboy's around here...
we have proof to support our claims...and quite a bit of it at that...where's yours?
__________________ "damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
dude breath..................................ok it never said anywere in any dbz comic or anime that goku cn move faster then light. so u cant go saying he moves faster then light. if dbz character realu did move faster then light then there would be no point to the battels. sense all they ever use is light bassed energy attacks. o cell moves 1000times faster then light that would mean his a thousand times faster then gokus KA MA KA MA HA MA HA MA attack sense its a light bassed attack. and if the characters realy did move faster then light then how are they able to talk to one anothe if sound is no were near as fast as light.
Look fanboy, big fanboy, can you except what creator of DBZ said (he said already Radditz was able to move faster than speed of light=FTSOL, do you get this, don't make your own argument, cause you can't go against creator of DBZ himself, don't be such big fanboy, can you except this, I mean what is wrong, yeah I know, such a fanboy of Supes, cany you except this).
And people, do you know why are DBZ characters not allowed, cause they are too pwoerful, it's always been beacuse of that.
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"damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
thanks for the heads up... I guess it would get annoying when there's a guy there to point out why you are ALWAYS wrong and THEN have proof to back it up...so I don't exactly blame them...being proved wrong on a daily basis must be a *****.....
