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Originally posted by Ultimate Ion
Thor twirls the hammer for the same reason Wonder Woman blocks bullets with her bracelets. It demoralizes the opponent.


Ummm...no she doesn't. She has durability, but a significant enough force covering a small enough surface area (such as bullets, missiles, lasers, etc) would be able to penetrate her skin. That's why she blocks them, it has been stated as such.
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To this thread Thor has been written at times to be really durable and of course not so durable as getting the air knocked out of him from getting hit by a car.

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To this thread Thor has been written at times to be really durable and of course not so durable as getting the air knocked out of him from getting hit by a car.


If Flash got hit by a car, he'd be dead.


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Thor is not the only one who stops time. Well.....technically Flash doesnt stop it, but to him its stoped. Flash is also able to travel back in time as well as billions of years in the future.

I bet that Flash would be able to "stop time" before Thor does.


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Originally posted by King_Mungi
Ummm...no she doesn't. She has durability, but a significant enough force covering a small enough surface area (such as bullets, missiles, lasers, etc) would be able to penetrate her skin. That's why she blocks them, it has been stated as such.
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To this thread Thor has been written at times to be really durable and of course not so durable as getting the air knocked out of him from getting hit by a car.


Which is think personally is sh**. She takes full-on heat vision in the face and her thumbs; was punched with such tremendous force she went from the Sun to Earth in mere seconds....and bullets can hurt?

I cry bull****. It makes no sense whatsover to me. Much like Hulk's weakness to sleeping gas.


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Ummm...no she doesn't. She has durability, but a significant enough force covering a small enough surface area (such as bullets, missiles, lasers, etc) would be able to penetrate her skin. That's why she blocks them, it has been stated as such.

Show me.


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Thor is not the only one who stops time. Well.....technically Flash doesnt stop it, but to him its stoped. Flash is also able to travel back in time as well as billions of years in the future.

I bet that Flash would be able to "stop time" before Thor does.


Takes him a few seconds at least to get to that point. Thor can time travel as well. What will the Flash do to Thor?


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Which is think personally is sh**. She takes full-on heat vision in the face and her thumbs; was punched with such tremendous force she went from the Sun to Earth in mere seconds....and bullets can hurt?

I cry bull****. It makes no sense whatsover to me. Much like Hulk's weakness to sleeping gas.


I must agree with Draco here. He's proven to me WW can take a lot of abuse, and bullets and such should not even scratch her.

Hulk's weakness to sleeping gas is also full of sh!t. In some comics Sleeping gas drops him like a light. In others it merely makes him sneeze.


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If Flash got hit by a car, he'd be dead.


Not true. It once happened, and Flash absorbed the kinetic energy from it. No harm done. big grin

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Takes him a few seconds at least to get to that point. Thor can time travel as well. What will the Flash do to Thor?


No it doesnt. Fractions of seconds if that.
Flash can IMP Thor.
Steal his kinetic energy.
I wonder if the vibrational punch would work?

What would Thor do to Flash?

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Not true. It once happened, and Flash absorbed the kinetic energy from it. No harm done. big grin


So if he was walking down the street with headphones on and not expecting a car to run over him, and he got run over by a car, he would survive?

He's got a steel hide now?

Honestly, what will Flash do to Thor?


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No it doesnt. Fractions of seconds if that.
Flash can IMP Thor.
Steal his kinetic energy.
I wonder if the vibrational punch would work?

What would Thor do to Flash?


Bust a moon size crater into the ground, shake earth until Flash trips over a pebble. Or he could simply take off into the sky into space, destroying earth with his Mjolnir, thus killing the Flash.

If BRB can destroy planets, Thor certainly can.


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If Flash got hit by a car, he'd be dead.


Not really, he can vibrate through it and hell his speed and reflexes alone would be able to dodge it. For instance he felt a bullet on the back of his neck and he kicked it into speedmode and avoided it.

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Which is think personally is sh**. She takes full-on heat vision in the face and her thumbs; was punched with such tremendous force she went from the Sun to Earth in mere seconds....and bullets can hurt?

I cry bull****. It makes no sense whatsover to me. Much like Hulk's weakness to sleeping gas.


Sure can, read any bio on her from the secret files or on sites (don't trust them, take them with a grain of salt) but that's how it is. I don't agree with it, but that was statement. Are you arguing with me or just saying it's bullshit? bwahaha...Batman beating the Hulk? madness I say.

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Originally posted by Ultimate Ion
Show me.


My scanner is down for the momments, but I will just use various sites (gah!)

http://www.superherohype.com/forums...oman%27s+powers

"While not invulnerable, her body is considerably denser than the average human being, providing her with the appropriate stamina and endurance necessary to perform the feats described prior, as well as to survive unprotected in harsh and extreme environments like Hell, Hades, the Poles or outer space (with the appropriate breathing apparatus)- although, a significant enough force covering a small enough surface area (such as bullets, missiles, lasers, etc) would be able to penetrate her skin (ARTEMIS: REQUIEM #1; JLA #4; UNDERWORLD UNLEASHED #1-3; WONDER WOMAN #124, 178, Secret Files #1)."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/w...29691-2001Apr17

http://www.amazon-archives.com/ww169.htm
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http://dcboards.warnerbros.com/web/...33&tstart=0

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonder_woman
"Wonder Woman could be wounded or slain by any mortal projectile that she was unable to deflect. She had a superior metabolism, more resistant to blunt injury than normal mortals, but was not invulnerable. She lost her superior abilities and became a normal mortal woman when her Amazonian bracelets were bound together by a man. If her bracelets were removed, she ran amok in a kind of "berserker rage."

http://www.starnet-database.com/dba...nder_woman.html
"Her resistance to injury is not quite as great as any of the above mentioned metahumans. She has withstood considerable bludgeoning damage in the form of hand to hand combat with metahuman opponents (such as Superman and Captain Marvel) and physical damage (as seen when she is knocked back through two multi-story office buildings and then buried beneath them). She seems more vulnerable to energy attacks but she deflects most ranged attacks when she can. She has considerable resistance to human weaponries, although there are inconsistancies in her ability to resist injury, the variances are probably due to discrepancies in observation. Perhaps her ability varies with some as for yet unknown condition that strengthens or weakens her in relationship to her Pantheon of patron dieties. "

Trust me, it's true. Unless it was recently retconned.

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Nice work, King Mungi. But I'm NOT disagreeing with you. I as a WW expert am fully aware of that weakness. I just think it's bull. It makes no sense.

She can withstand nuclear assaults...but a capsule made of copper can hurt her?

I think they should just do away with the weakness.

EDIT: Oh and at least three of your sources including the pic refers to Pre-Crisis Wonder Woman. PC is a WHOLE nother animal. Very complicated.


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So if he was walking down the street with headphones on and not expecting a car to run over him, and he got run over by a car, he would survive?

He's got a steel hide now?


C'mon, you act like as if his preceptions arent off the charts. If he is to get hit by a car, as soon as it hits, hed kick into gear and absorb the kinetic energy of the impact.

No he doesnt have a steel hide at all.

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Nice work, King Mungi. But I'm NOT disagreeing with you. I as a WW expert am fully aware of that weakness. I just think it's bull. It makes no sense.

She can withstand nuclear assaults...but a capsule made of copper can hurt her?

I think they should just do away with the weakness.

EDIT: Oh and at least three of your sources including the pic refers to Pre-Crisis Wonder Woman. PC is a WHOLE nother animal. Very complicated.


I totally agree, like you said in the recent fight with Superman in Sacrifice she took serious shots and heat vision and she still was fine. Hurt, but still fine. Never understood that, but she does use it to demoralize the people as well as protection.

Yeah the JSA: WW is different I just tried to grab as many links in a short amount of time. Diana's mom being WW, going back in time...oh I know it's complicated.

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Bust a moon size crater into the ground, shake earth until Flash trips over a pebble. Or he could simply take off into the sky into space, destroying earth with his Mjolnir, thus killing the Flash.

If BRB can destroy planets, Thor certainly can.


First off, any move that Thor would try and accomplish would be only the beginning of a thought if that.

Even if one of those moves got off, the earth would be shaking in slow-motion to Wally. It would be like running on top of little hills.

Ok so Thor wins by going into space and destroying the panet. laughing laughing laughing

Good debate.

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If Thor destroys the planet, i guess FLash would just run in the space-time continuum forever.


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Well, destroying the planet is a last resort, hopefully. laughing

Anyway, Flash doesn't have anything in his arsenal that could make him score a definite K.O. over Thor - not even that special punch - so it's just a matter of time before Thor tracks him down from above and delivers a knockout of his own, whether hammer or lighting. If Thor spins with the hammer, Wally will never get through that defense, or get knocked flying if he did.


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well Thor can destroy a planet cos BRB did. But BRB is a alien with Thor's power, Thor is thor with Thor's power, duh! Thor will not do that. A hard knock for wally will do. Flash cannot vibrate that. Another thing, Thor have taken bullets been shown before and discussed about.


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joesha, did you just say that Flash CANT vibrate through punches? And i dont think anyone here has shown Thor taking bullets. If you can, that would be nice.


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