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Well Jesus did make the statement "Know ye that ye are god?", and I and the father are are one...maybe meaning we don't realize our potential?...But he did?.....And he being a conduit, we can also.....That would explain things as miracles outside the Chriistian faith.

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What does the Words "I AM" mean to you?
It's an incomplete sentence, I am what.


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It's a statement....

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It's a statement....



A statement of what? laughing

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Of who and what we are silly man.... laughing out loud

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Because this is a religious conversation...
I take it you're talking about john 8:58 here Jesus said before Abraham was I AM. The Greek word is eimi and it means he existed. eimi, i-mee'; first, pers. sing. pres. indic.; a prol. form of a prim. and defective verb; I exist (used only when emphatic):--am, have been, X it is I, was.
He existed before Abraham as the logos which can be a thought or idea. I don't want to read more into the bible than is actualy there but some people don't have a problem with it. I think he was the spiritual image of god, but not God. That's how he could say if you have seen me you have seen the father.


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Aren't we all in gods image....so aren't we all in the "I AM" business?

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Like a conduit?....Maybe so...And in scripture Jesus said "These things and more you can do if you had the faith of a mustard seed."........Are we conduits also?
John 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. I guess so.


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Aren't we all in gods image....so aren't we all in the "I AM" business?
We can be, but he was. That doesn't make him the same being as god thogh.


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We can be, but he was. That doesn't make him the same being as god thogh.


I agree with you, when I jokingly say "I Am God", I'm talking about a connection not really being God. God to me, is the universe + everything else, and that includes you and I. When I read the words of Jesus; that is what I get out of them. I could be wrong, but it seems to agree with what I know about Buddhism. I cannot know everything and can never be absolutely sure, so, I have made a choice that my understanding is part of the truth. I believe that, when Jesus said “I Am” he was talking about a connection to “the Buddha that was enlightened in the remote past” (God).


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John 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; .
That's my point.....the same works we can all do.........If you believe you can in a greater since of who you are, which is the image of god....

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