You can put him up against Cyttorrak himself if you want. If it's second age Spawn, he wins. If it's first age Spawn, it's a stalemate in the worst possible scenario, and a win otherwise. If it's third age Spawn, he loses to any version of juggernaut, except for the current one (imposternaut)
Ok, let me put it another way so that you can understand *sigh*
Juggernaut gets his powers from Cyttorrak. He is not stronger or more powerful than Cyt. Cyt is at or slightly above skyfather level. Spawn has stalemated or beaten characters that were skyfather and ABOVE.
Here's an analogy so you can understand:
There is a bowl with small iron balls in it. If you are strong enough to lift more than the weight of the bowl (with all the balls inside) and have done so more than once, then you can lift any individual iron ball, and even the bowl itself.
SPawn is the one doing the lifting
Juggernaut is an iron ball
Cyt is the bowl with the iron balls.
This is futile. You keep refusing to take the evidence and make a logical deduction and just keep pouring your fanboyisms in this thread. You're a lost cause i'm afraid
okay then spawn is the coolest most powerfull character ever created no one can beat him because he is so f.u.c.k.i.n.g powerful thats the answer youd wanted me to reply yes? you can't understand spawn is not so powerfull even overkill beat him up few times
So what even Juggs has had showings that weren't that awesome. Spawn held God against a room of high angels..............lets see here there is God>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Cyttorak.
Not even close in a match up.
The difference between us being that i accept it when i'm wrong, and i'm not a fanboy. All i'm asking you is to see the logic. And don't be so tense. It's bad for your blood pressure
LOL I'd like to see Spawn take Juggernaut to a pit of hell and constantly burn his flesh away then let him reform over and over and over and over and over and over well you get the point. I love juggernaut but this isn't the sissy spawn from the movie........
War Hulk proved that if there is something of sufficient power (the celestial tech higher than the ruby gem's enchantment) it can bypass the powers Juggernaut has. Spawn was shown to have powers above Skyfather. He could probably leave Marko scarred for life
small??? doubt that... constant yes... but he doesnt need the shield for invulnerability. some of your juggernaut information is correct though. some however, is false.
onslaught also happened to be one of the most telepaths on marvel earth, and it also happens to be juggernauts weakness... its not pis, that COULD actually happen.
warhulk beat juggernaut, but the x-men usually get beat by juggernaut and rely on something... or someone else to help.
i agree, but if its JUST physically, spawn doesnt really stand a chance against juggernaut just like odin wouldnt if HE decided to stand up to him physically. odin could defeat juggernaut in more ways than we both could count on our fingers and toes, but i doubt physically is one of them. thor is more physically menacing than odin is.
war hulk didnt beat juggernaut because his power was greater, or by force... he beat juggernaut because juggernauts power didnt function properly in that scenario. war hulks energy was from another dimension. juggernauts magics are weaker against other dimensional energy. this isnt the first time that has happened...
in the issue where he fights juggernaut??? i'd say he was... he said the fabric of REALITY (marvel 616 universe) was his to control... and he was very powerful. atleast close to skyfather levels. but very little to gauge on that one.
FYI, i'm not disagreeing with you. if spawn can do what you said he can (or whoever posted what he can do), then i think he could win, probably way more often than not. but some of your juggernaut information isnt right. just correcting you
I meant "small" by comparison to Cytorrak's complete power, not compared to other power levels. And i was talking specifically about his "i eat godblasts for breakfast" shield, i know about his regular invulnerability.
Yeah, but i was talking about beating him physically (when he throws him around states.....). And i meant PIS was taking the gem from his body. A high-ranking telepath beating Juggernaut is not PIS by far IMO.
Which is pretty silly in itself if you think about how many agile and strong characters they have that coupled with their excellent team work should have little problems removing his helmet, and the fact that they have awesome telepaths on the team that could brainrape him once the rest remove the helmet. But yeah, i understand what you're saying.
So....this fight is just a physical match? Cause i didn't think so. And even then, Juggs could probably win, but at great difficulty. Spawn was holding up an Ancient God with pretty much incalculable weight when he was at normal size. He can grow higher than New York's skyscrapers, and in that form, was throwing skyscrapers around so......he has some strength of his own that is not to be undermined
Exactly, but my point was that if the power source is greater than Jugg's power source, then it can overcome his attributes.
Yeah, well.......dammit, you got me there
Yeah, i was the one that posted that stuff, and the funny thing is every single feat and feature and power i've mentioned him doing or being capable of is shown in the respect thread you can access via the link in my sig If you have the time and patience to go through 1.900 scans, i'd appreciate input on it.
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