the original beyonder before the reconn just by dieing was said to release the total power of the multiverse times like over 100 maybe even 200 i dont remeber i have the comic upstairs but yeah it was definatly multiplied by a 100 or in the hundreds
The only reason Beyonder was made that powerful was by his creator Marvel never intended him to be that they said the writer over step his bounds by making him that powerful.
"The Beyonder was a controversial character amongst creators. Creators felt that Jim Shooter had abused his role as editor-in-chief, and forced the use of the omnipotent character upon other writers and editors. Some critics felt the crossovers didn't always mesh well with the main book. One of the most vocal critics was John Byrne.
Apparently, Steve Englehart wanted to tie in the Beyonder to older characters known as the Beyonders (first mentioned in the team-up comic Marvel Two-in-One #63, beings powerful enough to collect planets) for his "Secret Wars III' story in Fantastic Four #318-319. According to Englehart, editor Ralph Macchio hated the character and ordered the Beyonder "removed" from the Marvel Universe. Englehart did as asked but has stated that he tried to exile the character with dignity. The character was subjected to a retcon making him less potent that originally determined, and explanations of his omnipotence have been written off as the more powerful beings "playing along" because the Beyonder's role was pre-determined".
Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beyonder"
could anyone show or point me to scans of the pre retcon beyonder beating all the other cosmic beings. I read somewhere that Stan Lee said the classic beyonder's the most powerful being ever in Marvel. Does anyone know from what book is this statement?
Beyonder at one point, when regaining his powers was stated to be "millions of times more than all the powers of the rest of the multiverse combined"
Pre-retcon was more powerful that LT whos powers were limited to the Multiverse.
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I honestly don't remember if beyonder actually fought LT. But however if you look in the above scan posted by Mordum, every being in the universe, pretty much including LT, gave reverence to Molecule man, and safe passage. They respected him, and asked that he do what they couldn't. To defeat the beyonder. In the site I provided, the two fought, and the reprecussions were seen across the multiverse.
Please look at the beyonder respect thread I provided above. It was excellently done by those who helped to provide it.
__________________ Quotes from Hia8:
"I claimed that the science is sometimes faulty."
"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."
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