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and again, there's no mention at all of morlun draining spidey during the battle.


Well i only posted selected pages to show Morlun's feats.... the draining was mentioned a few times over a few fights.... and the fact that Ezekiel gave him a bloody nose with a single punch points towards the energy absorbing factor from totem sources (such as Spider-Man)


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I don't like the fact that they've completely ignored his new powers in the Sensational Spider-Man comics.... Vulture got quite a few hits in on him.... and the Lizard pretty much kicked his ass.... what happened to his new speed? or his spider-sense upgrade?

And why did the Black Cat do better against the Lizard than he did? she doesn't even have superpowers... all she has is balance enhancing earrings, sight enhancing contact lenses, claws and minor strength enhancements from her suit (that the Tinkerer made for her)


Yeah, that was stupid how the Black Cat was kicking the Lizard's ass, even if she was made more bestial or whatever. He's fast and strong enough to rip out her throat without much trouble.

Also, after he got his speed and spider-sense upgrade, he still wasn't able to dodge some attacks in the latest Amazing Spider-Man. He was fighting Titanium Man (I think) and was on his back. Titanium Man then smashed his back into a wall, with Spidey still on it. He totally should've been able to get out of the way in time.

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i understand those were only a few, but i have both arcs he appeared in. true ezekiel bloodied his nose, but wasn't ezekiel ALSO empowered by the totem energy? can't recall off-hand. and i don't believe there was an actual mention of morlun draining spidey as he went along in either of the battles. i think the idea of him NOT being cl100 was from a handbook somewhere. still, i'm not sure i buy that. handbooks are notoriously inaccurate.


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Like Namor? And Venom? Yeah, I don't think mr. Morbius from the animated series wannabe is that strong either. He just doesn't pull his punches.


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Could anyone tell me the issue number of the first Morlun/Spidey fight?


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Originally posted by DraconaInVolata
Like Namor? And Venom? Yeah, I don't think mr. Morbius from the animated series wannabe is that strong either. He just doesn't pull his punches.


And he drains energy with each punch, making it only FEEL harder than it is.

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Wasn't there a time when Logan was talking down to Mary Jane and Peter just picked him out and threw him out of Stark's "unbreakable" window or am I just imagining that? confused


Yeah, that happened. Punked his ass good.

And Scoob's posts earlier detailing everything Morlun goes through is very telling. This whole "He's not class 100 because he drains Spidey" never held much water with me. The dude gives Spidey a ridiculously hard fight, draining or not, and his durability is at least on par with most Cl100's. Hell, I'd wager Iron man would get taken out by what Morlun went through...point blank for a building-destroying explosion (in a kitchen) and comes out without a scratch...and that's among other things. Durability doesn't = Strength....I know that. But it's something.

And even if IM wouldn't go down, it's still a helluva display.

Also keep in mind the "He punched me harder than anyone ever before" came on pretty much the first punch. That's a hell of a lot of draining to occur to make a class 50 seem stronger than the Hulk. And my interpretation: he actually IS low-level Cl 100.

I should just post that whole freaking fight...I'll get around to it soon I guess.


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Well Mark I've always read that he's class 75, just hits like he's 100 because of the draining.

Endurance could be a whole nother story. There's no way Speedball could hurt the Hulk but likewise it's really difficult to hurt him. (Of course that's not really durability, but hey.)

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Yeah, that happened. Punked his ass good.

And Scoob's posts earlier detailing everything Morlun goes through is very telling. This whole "He's not class 100 because he drains Spidey" never held much water with me. The dude gives Spidey a ridiculously hard fight, draining or not, and his durability is at least on par with most Cl100's. Hell, I'd wager Iron man would get taken out by what Morlun went through...point blank for a building-destroying explosion (in a kitchen) and comes out without a scratch...and that's among other things. Durability doesn't = Strength....I know that. But it's something.

And even if IM wouldn't go down, it's still a helluva display.

Also keep in mind the "He punched me harder than anyone ever before" came on pretty much the first punch. That's a hell of a lot of draining to occur to make a class 50 seem stronger than the Hulk. And my interpretation: he actually IS low-level Cl 100.

I should just post that whole freaking fight...I'll get around to it soon I guess.


umm, digi my bud -- your authority 'partner' posted his stuff saying morlun is NOT cl100. see scoob, even your own TEAM thinks you're wrong!! stick out tongue


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umm, digi my bud -- your authority 'partner' posted his stuff saying morlun is NOT cl100. see scoob, even your own TEAM thinks you're wrong!! stick out tongue


I'm just saying i still doubt it.... he hasn't actually shown any strength feats above anything a class 40 - 50 could do


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If he fought a real class 100, he'd get scrambled. I'd like to see him try to do the same thing to Venom. He'd get his mystical brains eaten. He'd rock the hell out of Doc Ock or Osbourne though.


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If he fought a real class 100, he'd get scrambled. I'd like to see him try to do the same thing to Venom. He'd get his mystical brains eaten. He'd rock the hell out of Doc Ock or Osbourne though.


He can drain life force from anyone.... not just Totems.... Venom would be in a lot of trouble against him:

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I would assume though that the symbiote would protect him from that.


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I would assume though that the symbiote would protect him from that.


But Will protect the Symbiote from having the life drained out of it?


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But What will protect the Symbiote from having the life drained out of it?


I forgot to add "What "to my post up there.


i should really stop rushing out my messages


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umm, digi my bud -- your authority 'partner' posted his stuff saying morlun is NOT cl100. see scoob, even your own TEAM thinks you're wrong!! stick out tongue


I never said I was siding with Scoob. I was merely using his scans to make the opposite point. Spidey's about the only character I'd try that risky debate tactic with though. wink

Anyway, like I said earlier....

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Also keep in mind the "He punched me harder than anyone ever before" came on pretty much the first punch. That's a hell of a lot of draining to occur to make a class 50 seem stronger than the Hulk. And my interpretation: he actually IS low-level Cl 100.


...though, admittedly, most of his feats in the fight were durability rather than strength. That also assumes that we're taking Parker for his word in the narration, which isn't exactly canon.

Still, I'm free to believe what I want.

So stick out tongue


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I never said I was siding with Scoob. I was merely using his scans to make the opposite point. Spidey's about the only character I'd try that risky debate tactic with though. wink

Anyway, like I said earlier....



...though, admittedly, most of his feats in the fight were durability rather than strength. That also assumes that we're taking Parker for his word in the narration, which isn't exactly canon.

Still, I'm free to believe what I want.

So stick out tongue


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oh, and i think morluncould handle pretty well any of spidey's villains. aside from ezekiel's (still inexplicable) punch, and appeared completely invulnerable. it seems likely to me that he COULD drain the symbiotes.


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so, you're agreeing with me . . . Happy Dance

hey, all's i'm saying is if you're tired of hanging with that guy who's always disagreeing with you and stirring up the authority pot, there will always be a home for you in the jla . . .


We need someone to keep us on our toes. No good group ever completely gets along, right? Besides, I still like Scoob, even if he's wrong whenever he disagrees with me. stick out tongue

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Unless, of course, if you want to wear this one...
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...I'd switch QF's name for yours, of course. That was just testing out fonts and such. stick out tongue


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