Besides that, in Hulk vs Supes thread i was claiming that Hulk could win due to his limitless streangth, everyone attacked me, they started to convince me Supes also has limitless strength.
Exactly what I meant. Superman has a general and defined power level. That doesn't count his uber high showings such as King of the World, which I would say is his best Post Crisis showing in a combat situation.
Why is this even a fight? Wonder Woman is stronger, she's faster, she's a definite better fighter than him, she's got the sword, the lasso, and the tiara. Colossus goes down so hard it's not even funny.
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Wonderman and Colossus are on the same level. Wonderman don't really have the strength feats to put him ahead of Colossus and vice versa.
Well Colossus has been said in a comic to lift hundreds of tons while shaking off mortar shells. Does that count?
Anyways on to the fight. Wonderwoman is too much for Colossus to handle. She's got him beat in everything except maybe durabilty. In a slugfest he will hold his own but once WW starts using her speed and weapons etc. this fight is over.
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Agreed. If Wonder Woman decided to have a slugfest with Colossus, he would definitely hold his own for a good period of time. But eventually, her massive power set would take him down.
I think Colossus would go more than a few rounds with Wonder Women. He's no pushover, and he does have great fighting ability. Even with this he loses, but the fight last for a few rounds.
Colossus would last a short while only because Wonder Woman wouldn't initially use her full strength. She's strong enough to break Superman's ribs, so she should be able to take Colossus out in one or two punches.
Ultimate Colossus would do much better (but would still lose). He dragged a sub and stopped a train, both which weighed thousands of tons. I don't think regular Colossus has that level of strength.
"Wonderman and Colossus are on the same level. Wonderman don't really have the strength feats to put him ahead of Colossus and vice versa."
He actually does. He was part of the crew who caught the Nefaria -
trowing - million of ton - island feat.
And then he has the matches with other big guns when he has done well: Thor. Abomination. Hyperion (where they had the earth or the planet they wer in, shake or something to that effect). Gladiator. Hulk, etc.
Colossus only has the Gladiator one, and that was before Glads was written as "pre crisis" Superman lite.
Wman is definatly stronger.
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"Well Colossus has been said in a comic to lift hundreds of tons while shaking off mortar shells. Does that count? "
It does. But you dont need to be Hulks` range (and thats the group i call "top tier") to be able to do the same.
Cl 85- 90ish can handle weights in the hundred of tons range.
I'd assume what they're talking about is the Ruin series, were we found out that he draws in more energy when in a stressful situation. While his showings agree with this, he also seems output it more while still maintaining a rising level of power. It's very similar to Hulk's 'get madder' technique, except more explained. In this type of character, Hulk could mad enough, or Supes could draw in enough energy, to accomplish any strength feat a writer needs.
Except for lifting a press that was stated to be 50,00 tons, supporting most of the Island where the Avengers hydrobase was(it even had a mountain on it) helping to catch a condensed island and having the shockwaves from his fight with Hyperion shaking the planetiod they were on
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