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Senor Cage
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The stare will work, however WW can block it and is far quicker than Rider. Rider got beat in Shadowland and didn't look all that impressive.

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Rider got beat in Shadowland and didn't look all that impressive.


PIS if you want my opinion. Anyways Diana cannot drain his hellfire

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Yes, but WW has a crap load of experience in dealing with these types of threats. And most of GR attacks won't work. She can even block his stare, like what she did with Medusa.

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of course she can. if she couldn't it would be a stomp, which isn't.
I think her lasso would be her greatest asset but overall I'm giving the rider a small majority

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How? Rider has limits and Diana has more move ability and speed. Plus the Lasso can act as a field and the bracelets can blocks his attacks?

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they will eventually slug it out. Rider cannot be put down unless she lassoes him and he has range attack capabilities. she will have restrictions of movement as she will have to kkep her hands in front of her face to block the stare.

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They don't have to slug it out. WW can easily lasso GR and win that way. Unless GR has dealt with someone as fast as Diana.

Not to mention that Diana can fight blind. She doesn't have to see to even beat GR.

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They don't have to slug it out. WW can easily lasso GR and win that way. Unless GR has dealt with someone as fast as Diana.

Not to mention that Diana can fight blind. She doesn't have to see to even beat GR.


he can deflect the laso with his chain. unless no one at GR's speed has ever done it.

she can avoid the stare with her gauntlets I don't think just closing her eyes will do. it's not the same as blind fight

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Been done before, but the Lasso has overpowered most weapons. Diana is clearly more skilled and will bind GR.

Hell fire won't be a problem, she's taken Etrigans hell fire, Nekron's magic attacks, and Zeus's magical ones as well. Magic foes is what she's good at and I'd give her the majority.

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well it will be hard to laso him when she has to deflect chains hellfire and protect her eyes at the same time

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Meh, it's nothing she hasn't faced before. Etrigan, anyone?

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really?
etrigan's stare could kill her at the same time he was shooting fires at her?

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As said before, she could block the stare, fight blindfolded, and speedblitz... so the stare is not a problem for her.


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In a "simple" physical confrontation, WW wins easily. In the context of the Stare, it's very important to remember that Diana's purity of spirit is matched by very few: when she kills/uses lethal force, it isn't coming from a "dark" place (as it would if, say, Batman were to use a gun -- his non-killing MO is the only real thing separating him from his rogues gallery), and she never does it lightly. While narratively his gaze could have an effect on her, to whatever degree, it would likely surprise him (perhaps almost pleasantly so, to find such a rare gem of a soul) that she isn't as affected as most others would be (she's narratively already faced a similar situation, in the JLA's "A League of One", where her spirit/essence was the only one pure enough to stand in judgement before similarly soul-purging/burning mystical flames/effects).


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what i see happening here more often then not is a backlash of powers countering themselves if Diana tries to tie Ghost rider up with her lasso and force him to do anything against his will..

or the hellfire of his has an adverse reaction if it comes in contact with her lasso..

very few have tanked or subverted Ghostrider's stare i dont see diana's "purity of heart being the ticket of her tanking it.

those who have subverted the penance stare had other factors contributing to its failure.


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In a "simple" physical confrontation, WW wins easily. In the context of the Stare, it's very important to remember that Diana's purity of spirit is matched by very few: when she kills/uses lethal force, it isn't coming from a "dark" place (as it would if, say, Batman were to use a gun -- his non-killing MO is the only real thing separating him from his rogues gallery), and she never does it lightly. While narratively his gaze could have an effect on her, to whatever degree, it would likely surprise him (perhaps almost pleasantly so, to find such a rare gem of a soul) that she isn't as affected as most others would be (she's narratively already faced a similar situation, in the JLA's "A League of One", where her spirit/essence was the only one pure enough to stand in judgement before similarly soul-purging/burning mystical flames/effects).


Hasn't she blocked Bloodwynd's penace stare?

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Hasn't she blocked Bloodwynd's penace stare?


I want to say so; do you remember what issue that was? While Bloodwynd's power is more directly a mirror of GR's, I went "broader" with the "League of One" reference, as it more directly relates how WW's spiritual resiliance was superior, in at least some regards, to even the more "spiritually" stawart league members, like SM, BM, Z, etc.

And again, not a given that GR's stare couldn't work effectively, just that if there's a DC character (non-ultra-uber) who'd have circumstantial tolerance for his stare, Diana's certainly one of them... Conversly, her lasso isn't a one-shot against him, either, as the meta-truth of his being/existence/purpose is rather deep, and there isn't a ready truth she can exploit against him as she might against most other beings.

Still, she's physically much more powerful, and that makes for at least a takedown. He can get wins, of course, but largely based on the Stare, and less so on physical prowess...


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